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Summoned to the capitol. it's not just, that the vice president, according to the secret service expert opinion, was in danger of being assassinated at the cost of the president, because even if they're on, the security details no, this is what they do against that kind of mob, eventually one out of ammunition. and if the people are willing to risk their own lives, then yes, they can take out the leaders of united states. >> and that point, and alex was saying this in the break as well, they're talking about the potential loss of their protectee, they are thinking about the life of the vice pr...

At the rally. which is very close to the white house. how didn't they take action before they stormed the capitol, and shut this thing down? >> that's a great question, in my experience working alongside secret service at major special events, if you've got that many weapons in the crowd, and you are starting to lose control, you are going to shut things down, and you are going to get your protectee out of there as soon as possible. so, this is really a larger question here, isn't there? are we looking at a tale of two security details. it struck me significantly, tonight, to hear about the ra...

Weapons in the crowd, and you are starting to lose control, you are going to shut things down, and you are going to get your protectee out of there as soon as possible. so, this is really a larger question here, isn't there? are we looking at a tale of two security details. it struck me significantly, tonight, to hear about the radio traffic on pence's detail. this is just really something as a law enforcement officer to actually start talking about contacting your family, and saying goodbye to them, i love you, is that where they're going through? and then contrast that with what we don't kno...

Have with his secret service agents, whether on capitol hill with security details or those who get secret service protection, that's a very real bond. but it doesn't change the fact that this has been a troubled organization, the secret service, for several years. the book documented a series of blunders and mistakes and ignoring of problems that they have. so this doesn't immediately pass the smell test. then you have the other problem, which is donald trump's candidacy and presidency from day one didn't pass the smell test. a lot of republicans went along as far as january 6th or beyond, wh...

Lose. if you think for a minute kinds of messages and things that were going on in the white house during those two days, january 5, the secret service would like to have been finalizing plans and the security movements of the president and the vice president ahead of january 6th, and then if you actually fast forward to january 6th itself. >> i mean, we both have the -- the -- the communications between the agents on trump's security details, you know, trying to prevent him from going to the capitol and then the communications of the vice president's security detail. will they take him away f...