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Indictment, and they have told him when you show up in court, and yet they have not told the public what exactly are facts in this indictment, what the former president is accused of, you know, it is incredible to believe that they would not at least try to do that tomorrow, and certainly not wait until tuesday. >> what's the sense of what tuesday actually looks like then? once the former president shows, up he has his legal team with him. i should note, i heard earlier today, he's in new jersey right now. he did not have a lot of his attorneys with him. maybe none of them. i was told they wer...

Obstruction investigation is kind of trying to find if there had been an instant where there might have been moments or trump could've arranged for documents to be moved out of the storage from where he knew that had been cork in researching, and to hide them, because he wanted to obtain these documents. there are various moments that might speak to that, including one -- would take breaks during his search by walking out to a nearby pool area. >> hugo, there's also something you noted in your reporting, that there are gaps in the surveillance tapes, the surveillance recording at mar-a-lago du...

Reporters get furious about. they need to denounce. >> dana: you wonder if they trust the sources again. you get to the hunter biden laptop and they trust similar sources on the security front with 51 security folks. on republicans and former president trump. he called it the crime of the century and it feels like that or you worked for him and had to get a lawyer and went through years the find out there was no there there from the beginning. does he deserve a chance to do it again for a do over? >> i think first of all he never got a moment's peace. none of us did. we all felt that russia pr...

Don't be surprised if they actually decide, you know what? this is tough. and maybe not worth the risk. we're gonna go with the obstruction charge, which still fascinates me by the way. and, charge for obstructing the case, and try not to get even into the highly sensitive information. which would be the espionage charge. >> it's always interesting to me harry, because you and frank will look from the same issue from different vantage point. so i want to hear your legal take on the question. and i also want to know where you think merrick garland goes from here? >> great. this is actually one ...

This is tough. and maybe not worth the risk. we're gonna go with the obstruction charge, which still fascinates me by the way. and, charge for obstructing the case, and try not to get even into the highly sensitive information. which would be the espionage charge. >> it's always interesting to me harry, because you and frank will look from the same issue from different vantage point. so i want to hear your legal take on the question. and i also want to know where you think merrick garland goes from here? >> great. this is actually one point. we are on two tracks here, and we've been from the s...