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See. but again, even if all of that could be fixed my concern is this now goes beyond that. that is quite frightening that even if you could get the textbooks fixed and get the leaders to act more responsibly, this has now reaped a level that's truly worrisome. this is the sort of thing you can't build security walls against. this is a commingled population. >> could this look like the eight '80s, early '90s do you believe? >> yes, i think essentially, whether you call it an intefada or talk about the breakdown of a social fabric. this is more worrisome in which one has to try to shape the tre...

Necessarily terrorism. i would be inclined based upon the preliminary reports we have seen to say that's the case. but there's always the possibility that you may find out after the fact that this was some suicide pact for some reason that had nothing to do with politics. that said, this is a first. back in 1992, there was -- excuse me, '93, there was a plane hijacked from germany. it ended up landing in new york. one of the concerns we had at that time was the possibility of that plane under the control of a hijacker, flying it into one of the buildings. so my concern now is that there's alwa...

The preliminary reports we've seen to say that is the case. but there's always the possibility that you may find out after the fact that this was some suicide pact for some reason that had nothing to do with politics. that said, this is a first. back in 1992 there was a -- excuse me, '93, a plane hijacked from germany and it ended uplandiupland i lantding in new york. one of the concerns at that time was the possibility of that plane under the control of a hijacker flying it into one of the buildings. so, you know, my concern now is that there's always, you know, we ignore terrorism. we talk a...