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Perhaps that's why rudy's over there as well. but one of the important things about it, it was $35.2 million and it was important to the national defense because these items go for grenade launchers, secure communications, and naval combat craft. that's an important thing for a vulnerable nation adjoining russia that has military involvement in a hot war that's still going on in ukraine. he's having it both ways. not only do we have him holding back the funds -- and for no good reasons -- vindman testified that when they held the funds and then released it, there was nothing substantial that h...

Put all the security funds into contract before the end of the fiscal year? >> no, sir. >> and how much were they not able to obligate? what was left unobligated? >> i believe the figure was 35 million. >> i'm joined now by former federal prosecutor john flannery who has been counsel to three congressional investigations, the right expert. good evening sir. >> good evening. >> we talk about law. we also talk about facts. there are legal defenses and failing at bribery is not a good legal defense. then there's factual defenses. so, focusing your laser analysis on the factual part here, do you v...

Now to newly revealed impeachment evidence that actually shreds a core trump defense you may have heard from the president himself. as we reported on "the beat" this week, this comes from a key part of the report that has flown under the radar. it demolishes a key defense trump allies have been saying, and you've probably heard this. one of the defenses has been to claim that that military aid ultimately all reached ukraine. >> the real bottom line is he got the money. >> the ukraine i don't knows got nothing to as far as investigations goes to get the aid released. >> those funds were paid. t...

To make this case have to get that fact out stronger and larger? because you can write all the books and reports you want -- >> right. >> -- but what the public and the senate deals with is what is known top of mind, right? >> well, how you would try this case in the senate is significant because you would take out magic moments in this case. i mean, for example, the read out on july 25th, that's a magic moment. but you take that statement you just did and you show him to be a liar by then showing the transfer of funds and using the other tape or the witness again to demonstrate that. that sam...

Paid. let's hear that part again. >> as far as withholding funds, those funds were paid, they were fully paid. >> fully paid. false. first of all, it's not a valid bribery defense to say your bribery didn't work. but what's new here in the report is the way they're lying about this as a factual matter the house impeachment report reveals those funds did not fully get to ukraine, not last month, not ever. page 145 of the report, pentagon officials confirming to investigators ukraine still has not received $35 million of the security assistance yet to be dispersed. 35 ms, that's a big deal. that...