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Official confidential business? an aol account that was actually hacked? mike pence. indianapolis star breaking the story that while he was governor of indiana pence communicated by his personal aol account with top advisors on topics ranging from security gates at the governor's residence to terror attacks. his personal count was hacked. we don't know what was his aol account because the current governor declined to release an unspecified number of e-mails because the state considers them too sensitive to release the to the public. despite that, the vice president didn't see the immense hypoc...

And then she had a private server between those two things, i guess to keep what was going on out of reach and outdomain. the fbi found out she had classified information on that private server. literally, vulnerable to foreign powers on taping that compromising our very national security. the fbi concluded that it was just extremely careless and decided not to pursue an investigation or charges. >> but now the "the indianapolis star" reports that governor mike pence used personal e-mail for state business and was, in fact, hacked. the paper on taped e-mails showing he routinely used his aol a...

Account to conduct state business. they found out, in fact, that as governor at times on e-mail he discussed very sensitive matters including homeland security, including the security gates at the governor's residence and the state's response to terror attacks. mike pence was outraged by hillary clinton using a private server. is a private e-mail account as governor different? >> really it's very much the same kind of practice, because not only did he put it out of reach of the freedom of information laws, but also made it more vulnerable to hacking. in fact, there was a hack apparently into h...

About hillary clinton's e-mail server, just break down the nuts and bolts for us here. what did he do and when did he get hacked? >> well, he was routinely using this aol account to conduct state business. we found out about this through a public records request. the e-mails that we requested were security-related. so there's correspondence about security gates at the governor's residence as well as the government's response to terrorist attacks elsewhere. there's e-mails withheld that we haven't seen yet that the state considers too sensitive to release. >> what's the law in indiana, tony, ab...

State a permit protocol from using a private email server. those are very two different scenarios. >> there's also a difference between talking about mike pence's private email server and some indiana basement and the fact that russia hacked our election and there are all these questions surfacing. >> there are differences between i agree with you that there is a concern about russia interfering and trying to undermine our institution, but i don't see what that has anything whatsoever to do with mike pence's email. >> jon: pablo, to be clear, there is no allegation that mike pence set up his o...