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We are working on is to have a clear wording on the path to nato for ukraine. ending the grey zones in europe is everyone's importance, because this really, grey zones are a feeding ground for wars and conflict. the only security guarantee that there is is nato membership. guarantee that there is is nato membership-— guarantee that there is is nato membership. guarantee that there is is nato membershi. ., , ., guarantee that there is is nato membershi. ., , . ,, membership. how disappointed are you that germany — membership. how disappointed are you that germany seems _ membership. how dis...

Much more volatile. much more unstable. the worst-case scenarios, of which i had don't personally associate with, i want to be clear about that, of disillusion, of the putin regime, the russian federation. this is a step towards a weaker russia, which suggests that ukraine needs more of a security guarantee from the west in order to deal with that neighbor. by the, way i'd be making the same argument if i was talking to choosing ping right now. he's worried about his partner in russia quitting the war sooner might be a way to stabilize russia, and even stabilize putin in power. i suspect that'...

Security guarantee. the weapons that we have. the only guarantee that we can help us sleep at night when it comes to the arguments i would make, i would explain to the partners that first of all, it's been one of the best armies and you have. we have successfully counter the russian aggression. on top of that, one of the reasons they have not been able to join nato is the fear of russia's push back against that in any shape and form. and i've just explained to him look, regardless, of you have played it safe or you've encountered, russia everything that putin does is a inevitable. you might as...

Threat that will be here for years to come. we need a security guarantee, and the only way that we can have a real security guarantee is at nato. i'm not predicting that's what's going to happen, but that argument will be louder as a result of these events. >> ambassador michael mcfaul, as always, thank you so much. we continue to monitor the situation out of russia after a short break. our panel breaks down exactly what we saw today, and what it means for putin's future. american voices continues right after this. after this (vo) this is sadie, she's on verizon. the network she can count on. ...

I would be welcoming ukraine's accession to nato because ukraine will take a good part of the burden that germany is now carrying in defending eastern flank on its own shoulders. what you may get is actually something a little bit different. you may get a commitment to so—called security guarantees. some call them israel—style guarantees. they mean israel's long—term security relationship with the united states which guarantees america giving leading military technologies to israel to give it a strategic edge. if you got those sorts of guarantees from some nato member states, including t...