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I'll go to prison for life." and in fact, i was charged with a possible 115 years, which would have been a life sentence. and we'll get to that trial in a moment. but i just want to get inside your head a little bit, the young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... he chuckles. i wasn't that young. i was a0. 0k. well, pretty young. from my current perspective, very young. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly believed in america's position on the cold war....

Supported past nominees like mitt romney and john mccain. an early test for governor ron desantis, if he chooses to run for president, shows how much he has his work cut out for him. >> elise, do you think this change in tone or perhaps some people would go further and say flip-flop is going to appease some of the folks who were worried about whether or not he was ready for prime time? >> chris, i don't actually see it as that extreme of a sthift shift in tone. the original statement where he said that ukraine was not a vital national interest, that was in written comments to tucker carlson. t...

Recipient of american military and humanitarian aid to what they see as not enough action down on the border to stop migration and immigration into the united states, and that's a needle they're going to have to thread. i would much rather be in their position than to be in the position of a more traditional republican security hawk. that's where the elites of the party are. it is not where republican voters are. >> elise jordan, sahil kapur, thank you very much for that. the weather we have been seeing for weeks is now include ing tornados. nbc national correspondent miguel almaguer has mor...

A life sentence. and we'll get to that trial in a moment. but i just want to get inside your head a little bit. the young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... i wasn't that young. i was a0. 0k. well, pretty young. from my current perspective, very young. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly believed in america's position on the cold war. in fact, i think it's fair to say that you supported intervention in vietnam. yes and no. i'd been in vietnam on a re...

The young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... i wasn't that young. i was a0. 0k. well, pretty young. from my current perspective, very young. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly believed in america's position on the cold war. in fact, i think it's fair to say that you supported intervention in vietnam. yes and no. i'd been in vietnam on a research group for the defense department in 1961. it was actually looking into limited war research and developme...