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To the heart of the impeachment inquiry. it's as if he says, if i do it in public i'm going to be immune to prosecution, and he's mistaken about that. >> there's a homeland security aspect to this, a serious one. congress approved aid to ukraine for a reason, it wasn't charitable, it was that ukraine is involved in a war with russia and america and its european allies wanted to support ukraine in this. but in this quid pro quo dealing there are other security implications we have to think about. >> absolutely. hearing after hearing we've had in homeland we've heard on a bipartisan basis from r...

A commercial on saving money too. >> i don't know. i don't know. there's so much there. there are many problems. donald trump touting he did try to reach out the folks at sharpie to get a personalize pen. also you're the president. any way, what is serious here when you look at the footage is whether that extra looping line was drawn by the president of the united states in a lie to defend a gaffe he made that did have security implications to make up for it. >> it almost looked like a sharpie. >> i don't know. i don't know.

Is or isn't american. brian, we have seen an uptick in hate crimes in this country. president trump knows the tweets about the other, about immigrants, have actual security implications and he just seemingly doesn't care because it ticks a political box for him. >> how powerful are they then? the social media summit, how powerful are the provocateurs? >> there have been studies that very little fake news is being seen or shared on places like facebook and twitter. i think the twitter study was 80% of fake news was being seen by just 1% of twitter users. >> how much of that is donald trump's tw...

But, look, there are real implications now of what iran has done with these two tankers, burning at sea, you know, crews at risk, civilian crews at risk. this had an impact on oil markets yesterday. it is likely to have an impact on cargo insurance rates. you begin to see not just the security implications, but the obvious economic and financial implications for the tanker market, which is so vital to the world economy. poppy, jim? >> frederick, you are on the ground in iran, you go there a l lot. we've heard iran's public denials, of course they would deny such an attack publicly here, but th...

But they're going to need allied support in the region and the other gulf nations to weigh in and participate in this. that probably is the real bottom line at the moment. making sure these shipping lanes are open, what is so different today, these are not tankers sitting in a port, as tough as that attack was back in may, these are tankers underway in international shipping lanes. the economic implications, the security implications are very significant when you go after commercial ships and attack them like this. >> we're seeing it with the rising oil prices. barbara starr, thank you very mu...