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Be ascribed as the motivation behind the ban that he put in place as president and that's because this was a ban that prevented only refugees coming from muslim-majority countries not from countries based on an assessment of risk. i'll remind you, if we had a attacks by refugees happening in the united states there might be more of a basis for this. there hasn't been any recent terrorist attack or terrorist inspired or terrorist related attack by anybody admitted in the u.s. as a refugee. that's where the fourth circuit didn't see the security justification behind the ban. >> do you think we h...

The entire process, get the visa and be turned around or you know, threatened to be deported or not let into the country when he landed at jfk, there is no possible security justification for treating people like that, and if, you know, applying this ban to lawful permanent residents, green cardholders who have been resident in the united states for a long time and returning as they were doing initially, applying it to dual nationals who may have, you know, no connection or visits to these home countries, none of it makes sense from any kind of even imaginable security justification. what it m...