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Due to appear on thursday before a congressional committee that's investigating what happened in benghazi. do you think that this resignation will have an affect on whether he appears in person or will that job be taken on this occasion by his deputy? >> i don't know the answer to that, martin. i wouldn't want to venture a wild guess. i would say that that was going to be a difficult and awkward appearance for petraeus. it will be if he still goes. probably the most difficult political moment of his career. some of the recent reporting on what happened in benghazi suggests that if there was a ...

Security lapse and why there was no plan to sort of come and help these people? >> greta: i have a question to you, steven, if the president of the united states, if people are suspicious, it's his fault because he should be out there telling us what happened. should he address the nation, as the leader and speak to the american people and say, this is what we know? >> sure, or do an interview that's going to be about libya. that apparently hasn't happened. i don't think we are likely to see it any time soon. i guess it will be interesting to see if this has a big impact on the election. i get...

He just returned from a fact finding mission from libya. congressman, welcome back to the program. there is obviously a security lapse because we have four dead americans in libya. but this morning on fox you made news by suggesting you believe there was a coordinated effort went white house and the state department to scale down security in libya? on what do you base that? >> clearly they wanted to have the appearance of normalization in libya sooner rather than later. i went to libya, i was there most all the day saturday. not a single person on the ground did they ever mention a video or ta...

I'm saying there are plausible things that we'll find out something, because none of this story makes sense. i agree with rush, none of it makes sense, but i don't think it's -- i don't think there was like a owe foe campaign purposes they tried to tell people it wasn't an al-qaeda attack. they're telling people it was a terrorist attack, that there were attacks to militia and terrorist organizations. what's the cover-up? >> greta: if it's not a cover-up campaign reason, then it's incompetence, which is also not particularly flattering or there's some back story. one of those three. >> clearly...

I'm saying there are plausible things that we'll find out something, because none of this story makes sense. i agree with rush, none of it makes sense, but i don't think it's -- i don't think there was like a owe foe campaign purposes they tried to tell people it wasn't an al-qaeda attack. they're telling people it was a terrorist attack, that there were attacks to militia and terrorist organizations. what's the cover-up? >> greta: if it's not a cover-up campaign reason, then it's incompetence, which is also not particularly flattering or there's some back story. one of those three. >> clearly...