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Victims are basically the result of modern immigration policies. to tie what you were talking about with the general about the border, that's the issue. if you don't have a border, if you don't have a security perimeter at the border, your wind up having to have security perimeters over everything else. >> tucker: that's exactly right. >> including cutlery displays in london supermarkets. >> tucker: when you have a population that can't control itself, you can't have rights, is the problem. >> no. >> tucker: de blasio's aide gets caught with illegal handgun, is this like peta running a butcher...

Victims are basically the result of modern immigration policies too tie what you were talking about with the general about the border, that's the issue. if you don't have a border, if you don't have a security perimeter at the border, you wind up having to have security perimeters over everything else. including. >> tucker: that's exactly right. >> cutlery displays in london supermarkets. >> tucker: when you have a population that can't control itself you can't have rights is the problem. >> no. >> tucker: de blasio's aide gets caught with illegal handgun is this like peta running the butcher ...

Soft target terrorist attacks and in four of them vehicles were used. what you make of that? >> isis has adapted to new security environment. and knows it's difficult to attack these targets like airliners and airports. they are now attacking outside of security perimeters. soft targets. they know that it's impossible to garden safeguard every inch of a major city. we have to come at this from another angle and look at the audiology and stop policies like in the u.k. that is making it harder to assimilate muslim populations. >> thank you for being with us. >> coming up, more on the deadly terr...

Who can we trust today? >> yeah, well, i would trust the fbi. i understand that the superintendent was worried about what if the fbi was wrong. but i think you've got to listen to the fbi when they say it's not a credible threat. don't close the cools. maybe call the local police and have them establish security perimeters around the school, maybe bring in the bomb skauds to sniff out any danger, but it's a big decision to close schools in the middle of a day in a big system like los angeles. >> it is and it is making national news as we are covering every second. one of the things we want to ...

Picture i can't tell how far away. there are several security perimeters around nsa headquarters. as you mentioned having been there, i've been there many many times also, the idea that somebody could drive any kind of a vehicle, i don't care if it's a bulldozer, through those security checkpoints [ inaudible ] >> oh our connection died with tom fuentes. we're going to try to get tom back he was just about to say something quite interesting. jim, we'll expound on that because you've been to the nsa building yourself and security is quite tight. they know when you come off the highway on that e...