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Actually heard the president's own voice say that he was demanding an investigation of joe biden. now along comes this career foreign service officer, a professional, david holmes and he says, no, i did hear the president's own voice and i heard it on july 26th. i was working in ukraine, in the embassy and i was with ambassador gordon sondland when he spoke to the president by phone. the president was speaking loud enough so people in the restaurant could hear from gordon sondland's cell phone. he said i heard the president say how are those investigations going? and sondland reassured the pre...

State, all agree the foreign aid was really important. had to go to ukraine. the hold unusual, holding it back unusual and no reason ever given why. so right there, whether it was ever communicated over to the ukrainians or not, and phil pointed out seemingly it was, there was an effort to withhold it. >> all this detail coming out. big picture this to me. fast-forward some weeks. public testimony. how does this play out? why does this matter in terms of potential impeachment of the president? >> let me give a security perspective and then turn to ellie on the legal perspective. even if it's a...

Discussing a time line for impeachment hearings they are saying could happen before thanksgiving. is that timetable important for them? >> from a security perspective they aren't cost free. just to date our enemies have learned intimate details about the innermost workings of the u.s. government including who listens to phone calls, information about various classified servers. that helps intelligence services prioritize where to focus their efforts. if deposition transcripts are released and public hearings are held, even more information is going to become public. that puts us as a disadvant...

Not appear he's listening to them in terms of how to manage the aftermath. >> at the same time his speech and answers were inspiring to many, tens of millions of americans who want to hear their president talk in visceral terms about the life and death consequences. >> sure. but you can do that, and paint a picture of how damaging bagdadi was from a security perspective, without going into the level of operational detail that president trump did in terms of what actually happened on the ground, the level of detail we had about this site that our special forces were able to get into. that was u...

Operators in jeopardy as they advance on the site. a small circle is important. that said, during the osama bin laden raid, i can confirm that congressional leaders were properly notified in advance. there was consultation. i don't know how much detail there was, but it definitely happened and it was bipartisan in nature. it wasn't just democrats on the hill that were notified. >> john boehner has said as much. he's talked about how he knew about that in advance. >> exactly. it was properly done. there was no complaining by members of congress about notifications in advance. i think that's imp...