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Does. i'll make full disclosure, i like the place. they were stopped by al shabab terrorists. they said, we want to separate the muslims and christians. obviously they were going to kill them. and they saw it coming. so the muslims went around giving head scarfs to the christian women, otherwise trying to disguise them. and they risked their lives to save the christian minority. it's very important that we stand against terrorists who try to abuse religion for any purpose and any religion to murder people. it's important we not be chumps when we decide what security provisions should be employ...

Russia is there protecting their interest. they want access to the mediterranean. that's what's going to happen there. but why not just bomb isis as much as you want to or see fit as the united states security provisions provide? and stay out of the rest of it. there's nothing you can do to control it. >> i mean, i have a piece coming out in cnn.com called the bubble conversation in which it purports to be what the president thinks about this. i think he want to pursue a counterterrorism strategy against isis, number one. he's got to do something in view of the hundreds of thousands of migrant...

Aberdeen. >> lois lerner got away with it, took the fifth, and pagliano is going to do the same thing. he's a low level guy, a tech guy, not an editorial guy. but he did see things or he wouldn't be taking the fifth, correct? >> absolutely. >> had to. >> he's got a lot of inside information. but the setup of that server, who was involved, who signed off on it, what kind of additional security provisions were put into place because one of the questions we're hearing increasingly is whether there was some kind of compromise by an intelligence service or hackers. there are reports that goose fer ...

This provision has actually yielded real results. they haven't been able to produceok the intelligence service, actual example great examples in the last several years of how itñr has actual hee stopped terrorist attacks. those on the other side say what is really useful for is if there is a terrorist attack, it makes it easy to track down those terrorists and maybe if there is other cells in the united states. >> got( ahead. .> buti thinkñr that at this timeñr when isisisi] movingt( abroad, these kind of debates kindof go to the periphery. i thinkzvxd americans generally say if the intelli...

The permit of people unless there's probable cause to do so. some law enforcement officers are worried, sheriffs are wor worried they won't have grounds to stop people if they're walking around with a gun in their pocket. >> i'm curious, how are pastors responding to this? >> pastors, a lot we have talked to are also concerned with it. for pastors to opt in, at first the bill would have been opt out which meant unilaterally -- >> automatic. >> -- guns would be allowed in. instead it's an opt-in. law enforcement officers aren't concerned about the church element but of course the courthouse ele...