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These atrocities and attacks on civilians for weeks now and the new general and the report on for -- on for forrous, do you think there will be a response. >> this is the russian way of war we're seeing it play out now. and there are many more weapons not just the phosphorous, that russia and partners have deployed in the past. wouldn't rule out the use of chemical weapons which has not happened yet. there are still plenty of horrors in its artenal. so that is number one. number two, i do think we're seeing very striking security responses from europe including the very real possibility right ...

That's just part of his posturing, that's part of the dictators mandate that nothing stays on them, that they are teflon, and nothing bothers them, and i will tell you where i'm really concerned, even if putin isn't, i'm concerned about the russians, especially russian women. i'm concerned about women in ukraine, especially if russia comes in and they take over ukraine. i mean, this is an issue that we talk a lot about. we are concerned about the every day people. we are concerned about the global dinner tables of the world, and those global dinner tables are usually run by women. and so that'...

Down isis is so important. stop them overseas. if you can't stop them overseas, have new processes at the border. biometric passports, for example. hardening of cockpit doors. finally, when they get here, you look at programs like the nypd ensure that you have an intelligence process to identify people before they do something. i think securing locations is not going to be efficient. this is not about locations. this is about people. you've got to find people before they do this because you just can't secure everything. >> phil, is it also about timing in terms of do law enforcement and counte...

So the israelis blame the palestinians for using what they say is enormous incitement for effectively encouraging the terror and violence that's taking place here, the hatred of jews, they say. the palestinians, well, they believe that this is all part of the anger and frustration over what they perceive as the wider israeli occupation of their territory. disproportionate security responses, israeli oppression and so forth. this is where we're at. the grievance in a sense are very old. they're just more retractable now than perhaps they have been in a long time. there's no sense of any negotia...