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Lawyer who is basically saying look, this is something where we do rely on third party accounts from other countries and that always makes people nervous from a security standpoint but this ain't the easiest way to get into the country. only about 35,000 people did it total last year, whereas you have about 18 million people coming in on visa waivers from these favored nation countries basically where they don't do any of that. they literally show up and walk through tsa like you or i might. this isn't considered according to experts the biggest security hole, yet, yet, what we do know now is ...

Our private phone calls. some heralding this as a victory for privacy. other say it's a win for the terrorists. hear their take. mike baker, former cia operative. is this a good day or bad day for private security and security, alex? >> i sympathy it's a good day for privacy. from a security standpoint. with this amount of data, it hasn't been shown effective in stopping any attacks. the raw amount of data, this is not -- >> mike, do you agree? >> well, look, maybe my colleague here has access to compartmentalized information and can speak to whether this was actually useful or not. i don't. i...

Feeding into terrorism itself. but also from an operational security standpoint you're showing your hand. law enforcement doesn't want to show their hand. often cases in law enforcement we would know things and yes, maybe in some sense you want to tell the public but you're thinking if i tell the public, who is the public? it's everybody. it's the people we're fighting. you don't want them to know what you know. >> steve, right now it's happening in a broader context. all of these terror threats. i'm walking through the streets of new york city the last couple of days, you go through rockefell...

Secret service director her job. the big issue here is not only is there, in the case of this instance, federal and state charges involved, but when you are soliciting hookers in the colombia, or going out drinking in some other country, you open yourself up to the possibility you could be blackmailed by somebody who might want to gain access to the president. hugely dangerous from a security standpoint,. >> we can take this back to when the one guy got into the house, and thankfully the president wasn't there, and ran around in circles with somebody off-duty took him off. it was then that was...

Have to be careful of the implementation of the recommend implementations that come out of the investigation that says sharm el sheikh is not a good place from the security standpoint. >> it is interesting. when the story first broke and plane went down, there was focus on whether it was a result of a surface-to-air ground missile. it seems it was flying too high. it is still possible to get a bomb, some kind of explosive device, on a plane at an airport. what are the different types and level of sophistication right now of explosives produced by groups like isis on airplanes? we know aqp has ...