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Pathway which is amnesty for hundreds of thousands of illegals in the country. that's a huge step in that direction. i think what we are seeing right now is basically the fallout of that extra ordinary meeting. three extraordinary meetings to go. last week in the white house, where you had the president and democrats, republicans hashing it out. when democrats went back to the hill, they got killed from their lobbyists and people that do not them to budge on the security stuff because -- and they want them to stand firm on amnesty only. >> bret: lindsey graham suggested today that the presiden...

I would point out 18 senate democrats voted for the last continuing resolution in december and they came under some heat from the left. i think i would be surprised if they get back to 18 again. i would also be surprised if the democrats actually push the button on a shutdown fight at this stage. >> they might not need democrats in the house. last time, they got enough republicans. >> this is all in the senate with the filibuster. >> if they are going to get it through in the house, there's going to have to be a whole lot more in terms of the security stuff. i do think it's worth stepping back...

It matters. and lindsey graham is a lawyer, a brigadier general in the air force reserve. served in afghanistan. he has a strategic vision. what worries me about another general or admiral is this. the only general of the last generation i know who i really thought was a strategic thinker is jim mattis. and jim mattis can handle the security stuff, the military stuff, but he needs as national security advisor a partner who can work with congress. the president needs to be able to work with congress. he may not like it but that's how our government works. my bottom line is pick the best man or ...

In the united states, unless you go to a foreign source. how does he threaten them? >> generally speaking, the american president drives an american car and flies an american plane. there are lots of airplane manufacturers. boeing's biggest exert is airbus. air force one doesn't cost $4 billion. it doesn't cost anywhere close. a fully outfitted air force one, which is a very complicated plane, not just a plane. most of the electronics and the security stuff is what costs the money, about $1.7, $1.8 billion. they build two of them at a time. so donald trump saying it's $4 billion was in typical...

Donald trump is not a techinologist and if he can keep the old guard there that has been dealing with the security stuff. >> the author of the book cognitive hacks as we can spend billions of dollars. influential hacking and everything is moved to changing. like wikileaks. it is designed for influence. that's the kinetic effect. whether it has an effect on our election down to like someone's