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But you decided not to tell the truth. you didn't have to give a press conference and tell the stories. that was not at all the original plan. the original plan was, when discussing with the prime minister on saturday and sunday was, given he knew what actually happened, he agreed we should just say nothing about it and the media will say whatever the media is going to say because there are all kinds of conspiracy theories, we would ignore that. what happened on the monday is, that he suddenly his mind and said, we can't stick with the original plan, you're going to have to explain it to peopl...

The truth at the time? the situation was extremely chaotic. you decided not to tell the truth. you didn't have to give a press conference and tell the stories. that was not at all the original plan. the original plan was, when discussing with the prime minister on saturday and sunday was, given he knew what actually happened, he agreed we should just say nothing about it and the media will say whatever the media is going to say because there are all kinds of conspiracy theories, we would ignore that. what happened on the monday is, that he suddenly his mind and said, we cannot stick with the o...

Situation was extremely chaotic. you decided not to tell the truth. you didn't have to give a press conference and tell the stories. ilipids conference and tell the stories. was not at all the _ conference and tell the stories. —" not at all the original plan. the original plan was discussing with the prime minister on saturday and sunday was, given he knew what it actually happened, he agreed we should just say nothing about it and the media will say whatever the media is going to say because is all kinds of conspiracy theories, but would ignore that. what happened on the monday is, that he...

It was extremely, um, chaotic situation. the original plan was, when i discussed it with the prime minister on the saturday and sunday was, given he knew what had actually happened, he agreed we should just say nothing about it orjust ignore it. what then happened on the monday is that he suddenly changed his mind and said, we can't stick with the original plan. you're going to have to explain it to people. i said, i'm not going into all of the security stuff. and the whole thing just became a huge mess. as an advisor, dominic cummings was meant to stay in the background, but after his spectac...

>> good evening, rachel. and i was listening to every word of what you found in that portion of the anonymous book, which is what, two weeks away from being published, approximately? >> yeah. >> and does it give you any setting for these meetings? i mean we don't know in these discussions whether this is a budget discussion or whether it's a homeland security discussion. is that the way it reads that you can't quite fix that? >> well, it reads like somebody who's in direct contact with the president or somebody who was otherwise able to assert confidently that they can directly quote the presi...