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Shows, one republican did bring up security concerns. the response was, this is about politics. you're making this political. this is a political fight. and let's face it, there are politics involved in the conversation about this website. if we stride to strip that away, though, how safe is the site? >> when we testified in front of congress, the question was asked, and this was all the witnesses, do you think the site is secure? all four said no. they said would you use the site? all four of us said no. computers are about runs and zeros. they don't care what your politics is. right now the ...

>> any concept of how much this is going to cost you? >> they can't measure what they have right now with 500 million lines of code because that's what's in there. they haven't done an end-to-end security test. they have no concept of all the issues. so until you get a firm baseline of what's there, there's no way you can come up with a price to fix this thing. >> 500 million lines of code. give me an idea -- i mean, since i'm not -- i'm not a computer expert. how big is that? give me something to compare it to. >> windows operating system has 50 to 70 million lines of code. windows has 20 mil...

Down the system and do a security test -- >> no, sir. >> joining me now, monica crowley, host of the monica crowley show and president and ceo of whitman insight strategies. this is a serious charge. basically forget the technicalities about the website which we assume will will get fixed eventually. that this personal security information of the people who have gone on there is ready for the plucking by some hacker. >> and they knew ahead of time and went ahead with launching the website because they were afraid of political ramifications of not launching. they were willing to expose american...

Down the system and do a security test -- >> no, sir. >> joining me now, monica crowley, host of the monica crowley show and president and ceo of whitman insight strategies. this is a serious charge. basically forget the technicalities about the website which we assume will will get fixed eventually. that this personal security information of the people who have gone on there is ready for the plucking by some hacker. >> and they knew ahead of time and went ahead with launching the website because they were afraid of political ramifications of not launching. they were willing to expose american...

>> as code it loaded, you need to retest over and over and over again. whether it's retested i can't -- >> you need to test the code. has any end to end security test been conducted since healthcare.gov went live on october 1st? >> my understanding is there is continuous testing as -- >> yes or no. has an end to end security test on healthcare.gov went live, yes or no? >> i will find out exactly what testing they're doing. i know they're doing simultaneously testing as the code is loaded. >> are there any end to end security tests run after every new piece of code -- i'm not talking about test...