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The -- trying to reduce the budget of the state department. as you know, just in the last 24 hours we've learned that 150 currently serving state department and retired officers are now being said that they were involved in security violations on the clinton e-mail problem going back to 2011, '12 and '13. if you're in the state department and you have all this incoming barrage from the president and the white house, i think you'd feel paranoid, too, that the commander in chief is not leading the men and women of the state department. that's what mike pompeo has to stand up against. >> ambassad...

This is a decisive time for him as secretary of state in my judgment. there's only one thing he can do this week and next, stand up publicly and defend the nonpartisan role that our career diplomats have always played in our system and have to play and right now the trump administration is targeting the state department, reducing the -- trying to reduce the budget of the state department. as you know, just in the last 24 hours we've learned that 150 currently serving state department and retired officers are now being said that they were involved in security violations on the clinton e-mail pr...

Dealing with this impeachment inquiry and calling for him to recuse himself. this is coming through state and not justice and it's coming through a department that is close to the president at a time such as this. >> as i understand it, maybe it's going on on 18 months and now ramping up? >> it can go as long as it wants. they have been dealing this a while. the then fbi director james comey caused her to lose the election pretty much because that have. she suffered from this and no one has come up with any criminal charges but at the end of the day, why now? at the end of the day, why now? >>...

Antennas. here's what we know. these 130 people, as many as 130 people were not just senior u.s. officials but also include some lower level officials as well. they were contacted by the state department investigators and told that emails they had sent years ago were retroactively classified and, therefore, they were potentially security violations. now given the timing of this, given the fact this was ramping up in august when this whistle-blower report was circulating, this report coming out days after democrats launched a formal impeachment inquiry, this has a lot of people saying that this...

Been retroactively classified and now constitute potential security violations. i want to put ourselves in that position where you're an official and, suddenly, you think everything is finished and you get this call that it's not. what steps do the official have to take? are they lawyering up right? >> they have to consider that, right? it's still unclear this early on whether they need to find their own lawyers on what this means. retention of these emails in a classified setting is a serious, serious thing. the fact that these officials, 130 of them, that is a lot, have to even consider or r...