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Sources i have that there's a real divide within the caucus. most republicans seem to be coming down on the side they can't be too contentious, can't battle too hard. there's a lot of anger towards conservatives like myself, like you, rush, levin, talk radio. that we are saying why didn't you guys fight here? next battle is going to be over the debt ceiling. all indications i'm hearing is the leadership may not be ready to fight on this. even geithner said no, they've gotten the okay that there's not going to be a big battle over this. what do you think the reaction will be if they don't fight...

Now my question to you is, they went on the attack against the s&p today. see geithner? >> yes. they are saying the s&p statement was politically timed. maybe it was. last wednesday we saw the president lashing out in a campaign speech getting nasty with the republicans and saying, tax the rich. over the weekend, treasury secretary geithner said you can have it all, just tack the rich. s&p comes along and says wait a minute that won't work. taxing the rich will not work. you are in a debt mess. we have the worst deficit of any industrialized liberal democracy, except japan. we are the worst. w...