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Insult one another. and there's -- i just think it's lessened the civility not nusju politics but day-to-day interaction with people that withdrew see outside, too, so it's just a different era we're operating in that is a little bit tougher than one we operated in prior to all these changes. >> when my son, jack, was born, i was chairman of the energy and commerce committee and jack got as many presents from the democrats as he did from the republicans. and he still has some of those. he's grown up. he lives in texas with his mother. we're divorced, but he's grown up in the congress and he co...