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But it is home to something called the world congress. the world congress of families. if you are unfamiliar with it, the world congress of families calls it an international network of profamily organizations that seek to restore the natural family as the social unit in the seed bed of civil society and when they say natural, what they mean is no homo. now, because they fancy themselves a world congress, this group in rockford, illinois, hosts international meetings every few years to do what they do. to promote natural families that definitely are not gay. they met in 1999 in geneva. in 2004...

And said i am not this. i think the crisis in the republican party today is that there are not people standing up and taking the risks. >> i want you to think that ted cruz is the problem with the conservatives. >> well, what he's saying harvard is the seed bed of communism. >> hold off. i want to play the president making his argument for loyal opposition. the republican party getting its act together to be an effective counterbalancing force that works to govern the country, right? there's this question of sort of purging of the nuts which is a term i don't really love. but about people that...

Small business owners and franchises are heroes. why does he say they're heroes? he joins us. jim, why do you say small business people are heroes? >> greta, i think small business in general and certainly franchisees in particular are heroes, because these are folks that put their entire life on the line, and certainly often all of their savings. they're pursuing a dream with every bit of fiber and strength that they have. they display tremendous courage in making payrolls and overcoming obstacles, doing things, frankly, that put the seed bed of our society together. as an example, since 1984...

Small business owners and franchises are heroes. why does he say they're heroes? he joins us. jim, why do you say small business people are heroes? >> greta, i think small business in general and certainly franchisees in particular are heroes, because these are folks that put their entire life on the line, and certainly often all of their savings. they're pursuing a dream with every bit of fiber and strength that they have. they display tremendous courage in making payrolls and overcoming obstacles, doing things, frankly, that put the seed bed of our society together. as an example, since 1984...

Lot more to make poverty a priority but mr. romney, god help us all. >> paul ryan says that trickle down economics is the christian way. he says that that is theologically the right way to help the poor. >> the problem is it did not work in the reagan era and it won't work now. i said the other day in a conversation with somebody that it is about trickle down. it is about the poor feeling like they've been tinkled on. that's exactly the problem. so trickle down didn't work in the reagan era. it won't work now. there is a reason why the budget director has done a 180 on his views. we learned a ...