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Anderson. >> and i mean, i -- i hesitate to call them cyber ninjas because it just seems -- i mean, it seems so absurd. but this company or this man who conducted the audit are actually recommending legislation moving forward. what's that about? >> yeah. it's -- it's -- it is really hard to say. but we're going to say it because i'm probably never going to be able to say the name cyber ninjas, ever again on television. but cyber ninjas is recommending legislation, not just one recommendation. but at the end of a lot of this misinformation that he presented in public, in the arizona senate, eve...

This report will have basically different numbers. when do you a hand recount and when you do a hand recount with policies that election experts say are not the bob pisani you are -- best practices you are likely to come up with a different number when you do different recounts with different elections, we've often seen this where the number might be different by a dozen ballots when you're counting that many ballots, especially with a hand recount. i think we have to point to the fact that whatever this report says, the policies did not give any election expert, anyone who has run an election...

Candidate in the presidential election and the circle of grifters that surround him are spreading lies trying to profit off the effort to delegitimize american democracy. we're seeing it spread now and there is talk in the california recall by candidates that think they're going to lose. they're trying to plant the seeds of doubt in voters that the state of california might keep its democratic governor in a state that's overwhelmingly democratic. those kinds of things are toxic to a democracy and i honestly believe it's a national security issue. this creates a situation of void in which our a...

Those various capitols in battleground states trying to stop the electoral college votes from being counted? and then the legislatures in those republican states can just say, well, the electoral college votes have not been counted. we are declaring that trump or whoever the republican candidate is won. now, i don't want to be professor doom here, but we need to be cognizant. we need to be aware. we need to be alert as a citizenry that these legal and perhaps extralegal violent actions might very well occur. >> look, you're not the only one predicting doom here. lincoln, we had on an election ...

It is both things together. last time, attacks on the 2020 results did look fringed in parts of the republican party. it was not everyone in the party signing up to overthrow the election, although we saw how fast and furious the big lie spreads. if you think after the loss of donald trump, it was rudy giuliani giving public conferences. right now whether you heard about it or not, republicans passing these partisan laws opening wider paths for politicians to interfere an election and maybe overturn the voters' choice. one election expert says this is a road map for a coup that