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Opposition to nato's interference in our democratic election processes. he's going -- >> i have heard, ambassador, other folks say that they're nervous that trump is destabilizing when it comes to nato. do you fear that the result of some of these -- of the meetings coming up could be a breaking up of nato? >> i doubt that. first of all, nato is a legally binding 70-year-old treaty obligation. so it's not an executive decision to be a part of nato or not. it's a congressionally ratified treaty obligation. also there's two fundamental ways to look at the u.s. leadership role in the alliance. on...

Trying to interpret it through a modern lens. that's something the president has talked about. we had sources who said the president indicated he wanted a h harvard or yale graduate, and raymond kethledge is a michigan grad. one of the things we have seen in past iterations of selection processes, sometimes the first names out there like a brett kavanaugh or amy coney barrett, get all of the attention, and it sort of quiets the scrutiny by the time an ultimate candidate emerges. that could be a raymond kethledge. the vice president has also been involved in conversations with finalists, accord...

No one knew who was talking to anybody. and you've got papadopoulos holding out russia contacts. you've got people trying to set up a meeting between the big guy and vladimir putin. and even the legal team seems to acknowledge that they don't know what they don't know. at this hour it's possible mueller knows more than they do. >> i can guarantee you mueller knows more than they do. this is a guy who in a methodical precise way, nicolle, has gone about collecting these facts, right? >> so what do you think he has? >> well, i wish i knew because the submarine only surfaces from time to time and...

They think the public and states need to be doing right now to secure our election processes for the midterm elections. it seems they have been moving towards trying to conclude their investigation, but we haven't seen it yet. they're going to still have more to say. >> all right. we'll have a lot more go through because this report is more than 250 pages. mooi they're going through and it we'll have much more at the top of the hour but right now we'll take a turn. we can't leave a show without money power politics. amazon starting off on a high note. on thursday the company reported its best ...

Throws strong words. >> i've had it with this president. we have a situation in which he has been one year, not pushing back against putin in russia. during that entire year, russia has not only continued to hack our election processes, but also hacking into, gaining control of nuclear power plants, water systems, sanitation systems, aviation systems. that is an act of war. nothing less. >> the department of homeland security is now saying that. >> this isn't me talking. the department of energy and security. we have within the department of defense a thing called cyber command. it is their jo...