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Secretary of education. tell us about howard. >> howard is a historically black college and university. about 10,000 students, 44 states and countries. if you look at what we do in terms of graduation rates in terms of giving access and the opportunity for students, we do a great job. we're the number one producer of all the african-american physicians in this country. the largest number have come from howard university. >> how are people of color this your community where you lead dealing with trump? this too shall pass is one attitude. what's your attitude? >> my attitude is that i think the...

>> and that's really interesting because if you look at the chunks of support of people who are competing for each other's support are senator warren and senator sanders. >> right. >> and they are the anti-biden. that becomes a complicate other alternative. >> john, does it tell you that >> john, does it tell you that donald trump is perhaps taking political advice that he did not invoke the name of joe biden tonight at a 45-minute otherwise red meat political event? if he had been left to his own, do you think he would have used the name? >> i found it a stunning display of self-correction an...

So that becomes a complicated other alternative. >> john, does it tell you that donald trump is perhaps taking political advice that he did not invoke the name of joe biden tonight at a 45-minute otherwise red meat political event? if he had been left to his own, don't we think he would have used the name a few times? >> i found it a stunning display of self-correction and restraint on the part of the president. two words that i don't order narrowly apply i to him and he doesn't usually merit. he at least looked away and said this dynamic is not working out the way it's supposed to.as it's fee...

Vacuum. >> and that's really interesting because if you look at the chunks of support of people who are competing for each other's support are senator warren and senator sanders. >> right. >> and they are the anti-biden. that becomes a complicate other alternative. >> john, does it tell you that donald trump is perhaps taking political advice that he did not invoke the name of joe biden tonight at a 45-minute otherwise red meat political event? if he had been left to his own, do you think he would have used the name? >> i found it a stunning display of self-correction and restraint on the part...

The left/right party sense. what do you mean? >> i don't mean it in the sense of something that's owned bip the democratic party or by any one political party. i'm talking about the set of ideas, of principles the whole temperament that's motivated liberal democracy and inspired liberal democracy at least since the 18th century, and particularly since the american civil war and the end of slavery and the beginning of all of those great programs of emancipation, for african-americans, for women, for sexual minorities now. that whole great program of reform and self-correction that inspires libe...