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Culture? what do you think about what she's saying? >> i don't think it's limited to florida, i have to defend my state a little bit. it's throughout the nation that we have a concern the way young black males are treated throughout the system i know the way the system is biassed against them, as mark said, it shows up in a jury selection process with, who you have on your jury panel. it shows up when you have a black defendant compared to a white defendant. it's definitely there, my frustration is, we have focused our anger on this stand your ground issue or self-defense issue. self-defense i...

When you talk about the value of someone's life. i'm going to get to the statement in a moment. when you talk about the value of someone's life, and you can't come to some consensus on whether someone is guilty of murdering a teen because his music was too loud? that's none of your business. you go over, you start the altercation and then you can't deal with it and decide to shoot someone and it's someone else's fault that you're on trial for murder? it's absolutely ridiculous. >> i got to think the majority of people in this country are going to agree with you 100%, but i'm betting what this ...

Looking? is it really all about stand-your-ground laws, that florida is one of the states that has stand your ground. and didn't play a role in this case because the defense attorney chose not to raise it. given the judge an opportunity to decide it before it went to the jury, but its controversial law, stand your ground. do you think when the doj looks at it they will at least impact the future of stand-your-ground laws? >> absolutely. they are going to impact it. you just hit the nail on the head. stand your ground despite it being the number one issue throughout the country right now, o all...

Immune to that just for the very short term because they still have to find that intersection of where, if it's a civil rights case there might have been a violation of federal civil rights law. very different set of facts than whether or not there is a self-defense issue that was set up in the killing. >> all right. lynn sweet with the "chicago sun-times." thank you for your perspective. >> coming up bill karins and betty nguyen join me for first buzz all the stories we're talking about this morning. that's coming up next. [ mom ] with my little girl, every food is finger food.

Second-degree conviction. the fact the jury has moved past it and is now considering the manslaughter charge i'm with sunny. if i were a prosecutor i'd be a little broken hearted right now. >> paul cowan? >> i have to, although i am also a former homicide prosecutor, i got to side with mark on this one. i think you can't read too much into the question. yes. they could be having a fight. two could be saying this is a murder case and four saying it's a manslaughter case. and they're saying, well, let's have the judge explain manslaughter. then they go back out and they have another debate about...