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She works as a spokesperson for moms who demand action for gun sentences -- sense in america. she is now speaking out about a gun bill in georgia that will allow carrying firearms in churches, bars and airports where they were once not allowed. allowing convicted felons to evoke self-defense rules and loring the age to for a concealed weapon from age 21 to 18. the nra approves. it says this bill would be the most pro gun law in the state's recent history. joining us now is lucia mcbath. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> let's start with what you're doing in advocacy around ...

Zimmerman, the dunn case sparked national debates about the laws of self-defense, stand your ground and limits on access top guns. she works as a spokesperson for moms who demand action for gun sentences in ameri s -- sense . she is now speaking out about a gun bill in georgia that will allow carrying firearms in churches, bars and airports where they were once not allowed. allowing convicted felons to evoke self-defense rules and loring the age to for a concealed weapon from age 21 to 18. the nra approves. it says this bill would be the most pro gun law in the state's recent history. joining ...

Because it ended up at best helping the defense. >> and sunny, zimmerman's criminal defense attorney on the stand. want to play part of his testimony. >> on the issue of injuries, though, when you talk about that with the class and your understanding of the law is that the focus is what is going on in the person's mind not whether they have actually been injured, it's the fear of the injury, is it not? >> the fact that there wasn't an injury at all doesn't necessarily mean there was a reasonable apprehension of fear. >> you don't have to wait until you're almost dead before you can defend your...

Because it ended up at best helping the defense. >> sunny, zimmerman's criminal justice professor was on the stand. i want to play part of his testimony. >> on the issue of injuries, though, when you talk about that with the class and your understanding of the law is that the focus is what's going on in the person's mind, not whether they have actually been injured. it's the fear of the injury, is it not? >> the fact that there wasn't injury at all doesn't necessarily mean there wasn't reasonable apprehension of fear. >> you don't have to wait until you're almost dead before you can defend you...

Gavel correspondent. when i saw this witness take the stand, i thought, oh, boy, this is going to be bad for george zimmerman. then i saw don west start spinning this around in a lesson for the jury about how it doesn't matter if you have an injury. >> right. >> it matters if you think you are gonna get an injury when you want to apply the self-defense rules. were you surprised it went so fast? >> it was interesting. they went into this concept of of imperfect self-defense this concept that you start the fight, for some reason you start losing the fight. then you feel your life was in danger. ...