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Nobody has that reservoir of goodwill. nobody has anything like that, compared to joe biden. >> if you can't admire joe biden as a person, then you probably have a problem. you need to do some self-evaluation, because what's not to like? here's what i can tell you, that life can change just like that. don't take it for granted. don't take relationships for granted. i called him after beau died, and he bakley said, well, beau was my soul. we talked for a long time, he came to my ceremony, and said some of the most incredibly heartfelt things that anybody could ever say to me, and he's the nices...

He gave one of the most amazing speeches in regards to thomas and just made it very clear his tremendous capability. people have referred to him as a prod gee prodogy. he started preaching at 13. it had me step back and look at the circumstances and what the groups were supporting and made me reconsider and reevaluate why i was comfortable simply going along with the position that you know this was a compromise it should just stay in place. i found that to be an excuse. i was ready to address it. i felt like if i was going to address it i needed to talk to the body and let them know that proce...

Mark, let me start with you here in the studio. do you think the press should be treating this book campaign as if this is the start of the presidential campaign? >> oh, yeah, because the clinton people are. this has become a tradition of melding the selling of a book to and that's why mid-career cases, memoirs, and you might say this is a late career memoir, tend to be more cautiously written and marketed. >> hillary seems to have this down to a science. >> it is. it's planned like a science, it's planned with a normandy level precision, and these leaks -- if you call them leaks -- have been ...

Got the right people around him at the white house and whether as you say he's using his cabinet correctly. of course no president in modern times has really used his cabinet. white houses are all accused, especially by cabinet secretaries who are a little bit out of the loop, of being too insular. but this one has been particularly a closely held administration. >> mark, how likely is it this president will do the kind of self evaluation to say some of the flaw is with the white house team and with myself, and we need to rethink it? >> as i write in the book he did that after the election in ...

It's not just about getting the policy right. i think he gave a thoughtful self-evaluation of what i should have thought of a broard context. as a leader i have got to impart optimism and a sense of purpose and unity. megyn: what about the sense he talks about he wishes he had give up the people a sense of unity. can the president give a sense of unity or dose have to lift, walk the walk? >> when you think you are the chosen one, that's what you do. i'm telling with you this be guy thinks can walk on water. the thoughtful answer should have gone the is i wish i realized how unqualified i was. ...