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But it must be enough fun that i continue to keep on doing it. the problem is that a lot of the journalistic profession, lot of people go into it because they are idealistic, they want to change the world, and my god, here's an ooiissue that affectse energy structure of our society which really affects our society, and i can be involved in this, so then they form pressure groups or lobby -- internal lobbying groups like the society of environmental journalists. >> i didn't know there was one. >> yeah, very powerful within the profession. it enforces a speech line, there are certain things you ...

What's it like? >> it's not fun, but it must be enough fun they continue to keep on doing it. the problem is that a lot of the journalistic profession, a lot of people go into it because they're idealistic, they want to change the world, and my god, here's an issue that affects the energy structure of our society, which is really affecting our society and i can be involved in this? so they form pressure groups or internal lobbying groups like the society of environmental journalists. mark: i didn't know there was one? >> oh, yeah, very powerful within the profession, and enforces a speech line...

What's it like? >> it's not fun, but it must be enough fun they continue to keep on doing it. the problem is that a lot of the journalistic profession, a lot of people go into it because they're idealistic, they want to change the world, and my god, here's an issue that affects the energy structure of our society, which is really affecting our society and i can be involved in this? so they form pressure groups or internal lobbying groups like the society of environmental journalists. mark: i didn't know there was one? >> oh, yeah, very powerful within the profession, and enforces a speech line...