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Top and the presidency as we see the juxtaposition between trump and biden, that that is what matters when it comes to leadership and what happens in this country? >> i also think it's the congress, i also think it's governors and state legislators. we are a remarkable country allowing people to be engaged in self-governing and what we are seeing is an amazing split. you have california doing insanely stupid things driving people out of california toward states that have rational government. the gap between red states and the worst of the blue states is to go totally different countries. the r...

Capitulation to this immoral president we saw by so many republicans in congress and so many people in the trump administration, for every story like that i also got to meet people like marie yaf onvich. this courageous ashz of ours being threatened out of her post in ukraine, who has the courage to stand up to the most powerful man in the country, to step into this hearing room when the president was telling her not to, to stare down, you know, this phalanx of trump acolytes vilifying her and who paved the way for others to show courage. alexandra vin mans and so many others in large ways and...

Top and the presidency as we see the juxtaposition between trump and biden, that that is what matters when it comes to leadership and what happens in this country? >> i also think it's the congress, i also think it's governors and state legislators. we are a remarkable country allowing people to be engaged in self-governing and what we are seeing is an amazing split. you have california doing insanely stupid things driving people out of california toward states that have rational government. the gap between red states and the worst of the blue states is to go totally different countries. the r...

Everything they claim to believe in, their ideology, the endless capitulation to this immoral president we saw by so many republicans in congress and so many people in the trump administration, for every story like that i also got to meet people like marie yovanovitch. this courageous ambassador of ours being threatened out of her post in ukraine, who has the courage to stand up to the most powerful man in the country, to step into this hearing room when the president was telling her not to, to stare down, you know, this phalanx of trump acolytes vilifying her and who paved the way for others ...

We saw by so many republicans in congress, so many people who join the trump administration. for every story like that, i also got to meet people like maria hahn of itch. this courageous ambassador of ours who is being threatened, being had heard out of her post in ukraine. who has the courage to stand up to the most powerful man in the country, to step into this hearing room when the president was telling her not to, to stare down this failings of trump acolytes vilifying her. who paved her way for others to show courage. the alexander vindman,'s fiona hills, and so many other has. when i see...