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Moments when you had big voices and big people filling spaces and the favorite candidate ultimately won. i think hillary in some ways is helped by some of this because she's a stronger candidate when she's challenged. she's being challenged right now not only by sanders but by the press' notion she's not as strong a candidate as she want her to be. i think that jeb bush, who will emerge from the republican primary, will become a stronger candidate. >> i'm impressed that he made a really salient point out of that ridiculous comment. >> joe called me and said to try to do that. >> is matt lewis ...

Now changing. >> which is maybe a sort of existentially terrifying idea. that everybody is sort of existing in this world on their own accord. senator rand paul pushed back on the trumpification. and this is what he said. >> i'm drawing the line about self immolation. >> none of us are going to set ourselves on fire. also the man who set the tax code on fire last week and attacked wit a chain saw. >> this is what you get. we're talking about this for no reason first of all. he succeeded. he just won the game. >> no trump has won the game. >> trump has won. >> huckabee. to the extent we're talk...

Had thrown the election. look how that turned out. same thing will happen to this if people give it a chance to work and the administration fixes the problem. >> howard, that is we're coming off progress i was feeling themselves, to put it in colloquial. >> you want to rephrase that. >> feeling confident. >> better. >> at least -- better. feeling better about their political standing given self-immolation of gop and debt ceiling debacle. all of a sudden literally two days later we've lost all political capital, the president is on the defense. what happened here? i am not entirely sure -- i'm ...

Spending. we're talking about the spending that republicans and republicans voted for to now pay for that. we need to make sure we continue forward and we're ready to sit down and talk, as we always have been, about all those issues that we have to deal with to have a fiscally responsible government. >> congressman, you're a veteran of politics. you know your way around this game. have you ever seen an unforced error, a willing self-immolation, like what the house republican caucus has done over the last two weeks? it is astonishing. >> i've never witnessed this. and quite honestly, chris, wha...

Spending. we're talking about the spending that republicans and republicans voted for to now pay for that. we need to make sure we continue forward and we're ready to sit down and talk, as we always have been, about all those issues that we have to deal with to have a fiscally responsible government. >> congressman, you're a veteran of politics. you know your way around this game. have you ever seen an unforced error, a willing self-immolation, like what the house republican caucus has done over the last two weeks? it is astonishing. >> i've never witnessed this. and quite honestly, chris, wha...