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V decides that the papacy has lost sight of its spiritual purpose and must return to the bones of st. peter in rome. >> urban v, a reform-minded pope, is appalled by the luxury. he was appalled by the self-indulgence in avignon. he announced to the cardinals that they could only have one course at dinner rather than their usual ten-course bafrpg wet. it had increasingly become clear that as long as the papacy was tied to the fortunes of any country, that the ability to act as a spir attual leader would be seriously compromised. he was convicted that the papacy ned needed to return to its home ...

Associated with gillum so closely. >> what concerns you about the baggage and the scandals that she was associated with and how that might impact the gillum campaign? >> her post-presidential sort of demeanor or platform has been very sort of self-indulgence and very much about relitigating what happened in 2016. in our generation, my generation doesn't really respond to this relitigation of 2016. and i want to call it whining, but at this point, it's kind of what it feels like. >> i am concerned. and as a young person, he nailed it. we're going forward, progressive movement. progressive polic...

Government down there, that president would, in public speaking, be referring to what the first lady reported to him, what the first lady brought back. what valuable insights he now has asesult of the first lady's visit, we're still waiting for that. >> we are, lawrence. and i have no idea what the message on the back of the first lady's jacket meant, but i think it's pretty clear that donald trump is the one who definitely does not care about those children held in those trump cages down in texas and now around the country. tonight's speech was, as usual, a festival of hatred, insults and sel...

>> ron klain, if any other president's wife, any other first lady had travelled to a crisis area where children are in crisis by the thousands, over 3,000 seized by the trump government down there, that president would, in public speaking, be referring to what the first lady reported to him, what the first lady brought back. what valuable insights he now has as a result of the first lady's visit, we're still waiting for that. >> we are, lawrence. and i have no idea what the message on the back of the first lady's jacket meant, but i think it's pretty clear that donald trump is the one who defi...

Fed up with the shelter of avignon. he must return to the bones of st. peters in rome. urban v. he was appalled by the self indulgence and avignon. he announced that you can only have one course at dinner. it becomes clear that as long as the pavacy is tied to the for chu fortune to any country. it was not an easy transition. >> the cardinals become used to their indulgence lifestyle in