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Apartment as well. i want to bring james cavanaugh back into the conversation, msnbc analyst, retired atf special agent in charge. he's also a former hostage negotiator as well. james, i want to pick up sort of where we left off last hour. do the devices and the tactics that these two deployed, do those things indicate specialized training or outside assistance? >> well, that's a great question, craig. i feel like there's more contact than just the self-radicalization by themselves and the internet. now, we don't know. we really don't have those facts. but you know i've been listening to your ...

Going to someone and making this up, but there is no easy way to prevent an american citizen if they want to become a terrorist from doing so? >> no. that brings up the issue of self-radicalization, and remember nadal hassan the ft. hood shooter, at the time was to be self-radicalized and looking back, there were points along the way we should have realized and you will find that the fbi and the department of defense now looking to incorporate those lessons that they learned from tragedy into their operating procedures now. >> with hindsight, there were a lot of points along the way that shoul...

Authorities, we're hearing he's bragging from his hospital bed, not showing any remorse about the attack that left eight people dead. >> that's our understanding, that when authorities went into the hospital room last night after he had been treated for the gunshot wound to the abdomen, they started asking him questions and he wasn't -- he wasn't responsive. he did talk to them, didn't answer their questions but they said seemed unrepentant about the attack, bragging about as one official described it smug about it. >> pete, self-radicalization, what's the word on that for saipov? >> that seem...

Correspondent, pete williams, there in washington. what more do we know at this hour, especially as it pertains to how long he'd been planning this attack? >> we don't know exactly how long but authorities in both new york and washington, federal authorities, say it's obvious he's been planning it for some time, for a couple of weeks. exactly when, they don't know. we knew he left a note behind at the truck, praising isis, saying isis would live forever. we know he was looking at isis propaganda online. he began doing it, as one official says, recently. we don't know precisely when that starte...

Off at the airport, you have them win. >> kimberly: i think you have to do a lot. it's a multifaceted approach. you have to have the rhetoric there. the action, the military strength to back it up. you have to have a plan. real intelligence being developed. not just thrown everywhere. you don't get the information. memorial day. >> dana: we know that these people that have committed to self radicalization, everyone has been on the radar screen of law enforcement at some point. with this in in particular, you have traveled to libya and a connection to isis. i don't fault a law enforcement. i kn...