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Not about saying you're sorry, it's about showing over the long haul, over a long period of time that he's going to do the hard work that it would take to build back some sort of a relationship. now, whether or not he can do that i think remains to be seen, but i think that is something he probably learned in his therapy, and so something he's trying to relay. >> robbie, what do you think? >> i agree with gail. it sounds like he's had some time to start the reflection process, the self-reflection process, and he's gaining more insight into perhaps why he did some of the things that he did, but...

Relationship. now, whether or not he can do that i think remains to be seen, but i think that is something he probably learned in his therapy, and so something he's trying to relay. >> larry: all right. robi, what do you think? >> well, i agree with gail. it sounds like he's had some time to start the reflection process, the self-reflection process, and he's gaining more insight into perhaps why he did some of the things that he did, but it is a long road, and my gut feeling is that he really has no idea yet as to why he was behaving the way he did. and he needs to make those connections, and ...