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Lurking around the corner. you should reject these voices. because what they suggest is that our brave and creative and unique experiment in self rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted. >> bret: that was the president at ohio state. it's hard to believe that was a week ago as he was talking at ohio state. this was the white house briefing room today. >> the white house right now has issues, benghazi talking points, irs and political groups, phone records and every instance, either the president or you have placed the burden of responsibility someplace else. >> can you have ...

Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government is nothing more than some separate sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. they'll warn tierney is always lurking just around the corner. you should reject these voices. because what they suggest is that our brave and creative and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham, with which we can't be trusted. we have never been a people who place all of our faith in government to solve our problems. we should want to. but we ...

Government. you do it when you hire people and raise decent kids. >> i think his remarks are or wa wailien. he begins, i'm sorry you had to listen to different remarks than me and attacks on government is attacks on self-rule. i would argue, the facts are on my side. the government is self-rule. you have a government that listens to your e-mail, your telephone conversation, what kind of soda you can drink, light bulb you can illuminate your bedroom fwith. those are attacks on free agency and self-rule period. >> the killer light bulb. >> if you can't make that decision, what decisions can you ...

You should reject these voices because what they suggest is that our brave, creative, unique experiment and self-rule is just a sham with which we can't be trusted. >> you should reject these voices. president obama said the country needs to be energized, they need to engage citizenship, one that works together. >> yours has become a generation possessed with the most american ideas, that people who love their country can change it for the better. we don't think the government is the source of all of our problems either. because we understand that this democracy is ours. and as citizens, we un...

Hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. you should reject these voices. because what they suggest is that our brave and creative and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham. with which we can't be trusted. >> merely 24 hours before that speech, 1,000 miles away in houston, nra's ceo, wayne lapierre was pushing that exact brand of anti-government phobia. we'll take a dip -- a strange one -- into wayne's world and discuss this weekend's nra national convention when the brady campai...