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Really ought to either be consistent quit making money from these countries that are really oppressing human rights and quit bowing to the pressure and just sell their stuff. that's what they're in business for. sell stuff. >> but that's the argument -- but governor that's the argument that's made from the other side about the baker and the florist and the candlestick maker. you're in business to make a cake. just bake a cake and go home and be be a good christian, whatever that means. >> a lot of people will do that michael. they will bake the cake. but shouldn't they have the discretion? tha...

Issue. and for anybody to try to draw some comparison between what's happening by not getting a wedding cake made and people having their hands cut off or being hanged or imprisoned. i mean i find that a stretch and i think these corporations really ought to either be consistent quit making money from these countries that are really oppressing human rights and quit bowing to the pressure and just sell their stuff. that's what they are in business for. sell stuff. >> that's the argument -- governor that's the argument that is made from the other side about the baker and the florist and the cand...

Agency has slashed the debt of greece to junk. they've curt portugal, spain. what does that mean they cut the credit ratings? it's just reich you, if you run up too much debt, if you have financial problems, your credit score goes down, right? dramatically? and if you need to borrow money, your interest rates go up and it becomes even harder for you to pay your bills and harder for you to get your financial house in order. that's what's happening in europe. it's a real problem for the euro and or countries on the peripheral of the e.u. they're having a hard time running completes. here's what ...