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Asymmetry. >> so clarify, president obama in his first term held fewer press conferences than bill clinton, george h.w. bush, or george w. bush. >> really. that doesn't surprise me at all. >> we know that he did have an off the record sitdown yesterday with some members of the news media off the record. maybe one day that will be on the record. >> the reverend al sharpton just interviewed him, and al will be on my show this sunday when we have this discussion. >> by proxy you are intifg the white house. >> that's about as close as i go. i basically said can you get me someone who has talked to...

Escapism, what we're seeing is people addressing serious issues even in the middle of real economic challenges. >> right. in the 1930s, though, they knew what they were escaping from. the issue -- no, it's true. they were clear cut, those issues, and the mrekz of the 1930 films is fascinating because what it did was it got us through the depression. >> and now we are taking ourselves through two hours and 45 minutes of torture on the sell ver screen. we actually have to take a break, but when we come back, we will discuss silver lining's playbook and talk about "argo" and "les mis." so many ot...