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Services and enhancing the rule of law. at the time i didn't question our strategy. to misinform our military leaders about security and development progress, essentially. how should americans process this? how can they trust what they're hearing from officials today? how do you process and think about this now? >> i'm going to look forward to reading the 400 interviews and it's going to be somewhat comical seeing the differences between the private r reminiscence. i don't think there's any confusion about what's been going on in afghanistan for a generation. congressional delegations go in an...

Slaughtered people of chemical weapons but allowed us to eliminate isis or support the overthrow of bashar al-assad after the disasters of libya, yemen and and the semi disaster of iraq and we determine the take out of bashar al-assad whether or not the russians wanted us to. nobody in the country wants to have a reality check. those are the only choices that i see. she's going much further right now than the president did yesterday. he's not taking out the airfields. he's hitting some targets.

Lay the ground work for liberating libya. you know, when it comes to egypt, i think had at any time been for the leadership we showed, you might have seen a different outdoom there. >> joining me now is the atlantic's jeffrey goldberg, and the washington post and karen --. jeff, first to you. you've just come back from the middle east. i was wondering as i watched that what was the president doing describing either libya or egypt as a success story for american intervention? >> well, it could always be worse, i suppose, but it's not -- you can't call either of these places success stories. obv...