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That image of the republican party is the key for democrats to win in this election. and it is smart to drive that. i have some quarrels with -- or reservations about some of the ways in which he went at it in this particular speech. but the fact that he is drawing a contrast, i think, is very important. >> as i said, he seems to be sort of ratcheting up the energy and the language moving closer to the midterms. obviously, strategic. do you disagree with that? >> i do think it's strategic. and i do think this is going to be an escalation from the white house. you have seen the white house real...

Your question as to what president biden meant when he called republicans fascist. clearly, the new strategy is to call red blooded conservatives extreme maga republicans or semi fascist. look, if that is his strategy -- >> semi fascism, just to be clear. >> the fact is, if that's his strategy, to use those terms as they are calling us, the new deplorables, that is going to do nothing more than -- it's going to embolden republicans, it's going to turn off independents. and it's not going to do anything to really drive home his message that, he says, our accomplishments. look, when he insults r...

Not going to move the needle at all. >> david, i will let you in. >> look, i want to partially agree with alice stewart, i don't think he has to use terms like fascist or a neo-fascist or whatever -- >> semi-fascist -- >> i think the extremism of the republican party has manifested itself around this dobbs decision. and the fact that so many republicans around the country seem willing to impose the most draconian restrictions, even in the most dire of circumstances, that is extreme. election denial is extreme. so, those things speak for themselves. i think the president missed an opportunity t...

All, deny the outcome of the last election. i mean, many of them are still -- including the former defeated president -- are still fighting the outcome of the last election. we saw step by step by step what he tried to do to overturn the rightful decision of the voters in 2020. now we have people running who are pledging that in their offices that they take, the secretary of state or attorney general or governor that they are going to determine the outcome of elections regardless of the votes. i mean, so, look, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a duck. i don't think there's a lo...

Roe v. wade has been an animating issue for many democrats. and they've tried to expand that more broadly to freedom. to say, if that was put at jeopardy, as we have seen it play out, could gay marriage be next. could other issues that are dear to people's personal freedoms be on the line. and so, there are now some very stark choices that the president is willing to get behind and he has ramped up his rhetoric. he did say that there are conservative republicans with whom he has worked, that he likes and trusts. he made that distinction, but the overall whelming message is what you focused on ...