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2020 who may not want to be put in that position. >> i want to play something from senator dorgen, who was also around during that clinton impeachment, talking about the different approach that even the democratic leaders took there. they were in touch at times with the white house and their party, but they didn't do what mcconnell is doing. >> we developed a templet for how to go through the trial and conduct the trial. we-two leaders, respected each other and they wanted to make sure this was done the right way and in a way that's bipartisan. and that's how it happened. the senate's a very d...

Senator dorgen, everybody's views on the case, by the time it reaches the senate, the clinton scandals had been well-debated in american life. did you see any of your colleaguings walk out of the senate floor as the trial commenced and said wait, this is a big one? >> i think everyone understood this is a very sober moment. there is no joy in a united states senate that convenes as a trial for prosecution of impeachment resolution. it is a tough situation. let me just tell you that as we began, there's not much of a template for how you proceed. as we begin, all 100 of us met in the old senate...