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That's what this is about. he is being disingenuous about it. >> bill: monica, am i wrong here? what walker wants is a vote. he wants a vote so that he becomes more powerful than the union, he, the governor, and the ledge later becomes more powerful than the union and they can bring state costs down. that's what it is about. >> he wants a vote. it's called democracy. it's what he was elected on. and i don't know where alan thinks governor walker is going to get all this money to do -- open up some sort of new negotiation with the unions. there is no money. you know what this is all about, this...

That's what this is about. he is being disingenuous about it. >> bill: monica, am i wrong here? what walker wants is a vote. he wants a vote so that he becomes more powerful than the union, he, the governor, and the ledge later becomes more powerful than the union and they can bring state costs down. that's what it is about. >> he wants a vote. it's called democracy. it's what he was elected on. and i don't know where alan thinks governor walker is going to get all this money to do -- open up some sort of new negotiation with the unions. there is no money. you know what this is all about, this...

That's what this is about. he is being disingenuous about it. >> bill: monica, am i wrong here? what walker wants is a vote. he wants a vote so that he becomes more powerful than the union, he, the governor, and the ledge later becomes more powerful than the union and they can bring state costs down. that's what it is about. >> he wants a vote. it's called democracy. it's what he was elected on. and i don't know where alan thinks governor walker is going to get all this money to do -- open up some sort of new negotiation with the unions. there is no money. you know what this is all about, this...