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Date, but he didn't. and what's terrifying is that there are many of these examples that happened over the years. >> you have some amazing interviews. mikhail gorbachev being one of them, robert mcnamara, former defense secretary. >> tony blair, president musharraf, valerie blame from the cia and others. it's a strong lineup of people. >> what most surprised you about this project? >> okay, here's what's most -- i don't feel good about this, but i was sitting next to a veteran from the cia for 20 years, ralph larson. he went with george tenet to -- days after 9/11 and landed in pakistan to mee...

They just want to get past this. they have so few options. i think richard has the other end of this, which is the karzai team also trying to dial it down. there is no love lost here. but they don't know what else to do. and he is now their guy, elected. they've made the determination that that election was not fraudulent, at least on its face. and they've got to deal with him. the surge is about to ramp up, and what do you do when you're trying to have a policy with an 18-month time line for withdrawal, for handing it over to the team in place and the team in place has tot gob the afghan gove...