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Like with their shirt off. can you close your eyes and imagine jimmy stewart or montgomery cliff or even john wayne with their shirt off? >> it would be ridiculous for me to play outside of it and it would be crazy for dustin hoffman to try to be commando or to be conan or the terminator or to be rambo. it doesn't work, you know? people only accept you for certain things. >> there were a lot of ideas of returning to traditional notions of masculinity after the sensitive '70s. but these thing goes in cycles. and i think that by the late '80s we were ready for an action hero that was a little mo...

Devoted to having the perfectly chiseled, ultra muscled upper body, at the same time that arnold schwarzenegger who, of course, had been a bodybuilder suddenly became an unlikely action star in the '80s, too. >> i don't know if prior to 1980 anyone would have had a firm visual image of what their favorite actor looked like with their shirt off. can you close your eyes and imagine jimmy stewart or montgomery clift or even john wayne without their shirt on? it's not essential to their image as actors. >> it would be ridiculous for me to play outside of that role. and it would be crazy for dustin...

Actor would looked like with their shirt off. can you close your eyes and imagine jimmy stewart or montgomery cliff or even john wayne with their shirt off? >> it would be ridiculous for me to play outside of it and it would be crazy for dustin hoffman to try to be commando or to be conan or the terminator or to be rambo. it doesn't work, you know? people only accept you for certain things. >> there were a lot of ideas of returning to traditional notions of masculinity after the sensitive '70s. but these thing goes in cycles. and i think that by the late '80s we were ready for an action hero t...

Conan. >> there was a lot of ideas of returning to traditional notions of masculinity after the sensitive '70s. but these things go in cycles and i think by the late '80s we were ready for an action hero who was a little more sensitive. >> do you think you have a chance with us, mr. cowboy? >> yippee kayay [ bleep ]. >> it is an action movie where the action is great. it is a heist movie where the heist makes sense. you have john mcclain who is not a superhero, who is a regular new york cop who's not only out of his element but he's out of his shoes. >> that's a great thing to do in an action ...