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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20130409 05:50:00

want. also, part of this rhetoric from kim jong-un that we re now seeing, how much do you think it is to shore up his own support within his own government? he s a new leader, he doesn t have the same kind of track record that his father had. yeah, i think what you re seeing here is a domestic agenda play out on a public stage. it s unfortunately, it s fraught with the potential for grave miscalculation. if cooler heads don t prevail here, if there is a miscalculation, it could have very bad consequences. it s so disturbing to see some of the images you were able to capture in this film, seoul train. appreciate you being on the program. jim butterworth. next, mike rice is out as rutgers basketball coach. so is his boss. wait until you hear about the golden parachute the former athletic director, tim pernetti, that he s walking away with. also an amazing moment on the field. nebraska cornhuskers get some help from a 7-year-old who ran 69 yards for a touchdown.

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20130409 05:46:00

[ speaking in a foreign language ] safety and freedom, so close. those were chinese guards who pulled the woman and child away from the gates. china s government doesn t consider north korean refugees worthy of asylum. seoul train has given the world a rare look inside the live of north koreans. jim butterworth, one of the film makers, joins me now. good to have you back on the program.

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20130409 02:48:00

piece recently about camp 14 for 60 minutes, that in some camps they have three generations of punishment where they don t just punish a political prisoner, they also punish that person s parents and children. they want to wipe out three generations. i want to play another clip from your film seoul train. a defector returns to north korea with a hidden camera to show how bad the humanitarian crisis is there. let s watch. many children suffer the most that will really influence their growth. at the age of 7, north korean children and south korean children has about 12 centimeter height difference so in inches, probably it s about five, six inches difference at the age of 7. all this military posturing by kim jong-un, it makes an already bad food crisis in north korea worse for civilians,

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20130409 02:51:00

miscalculation. if cooler heads don t prevail here, if there is a miscalculation, it could have very bad consequences. it s so disturbing to see some of the images you were able to capture in this film, seoul train. appreciate you being on the program. jim butterworth. next, mike rice is out as rutgers basketball coach. so is his boss. wait until you hear about the golden parachute the former athletic director, tim pernetti, that he s walking away with. also an amazing moment on the field. nebraska cornhuskers get some help from a 7-year-old who ran 69 yards for a touchdown. it s monday.

Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20130409 02:46:00

that shows how dangerous the journey out can be. the film follows four adults and a toddler, this little girl in pigtails who is just 2 years old, as they try to make their escape. on the part we re going to show you, they have left the safe house and made it across the border into china, all the way to the gates of the japanese consulate. once inside those gates, they are told they ll be safe but watch what happens to the woman and the little girl. [ speaking in a foreign language ] [ speaking in a foreign language ] safety and freedom, so close. those were chinese guards who pulled the woman and child away from the gates. china s government doesn t consider north korean refugees worthy of asylum. seoul train has given the world a rare look inside the live of north koreans. jim butterworth, one of the film makers, joins me now. good to have you back on the program.

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