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It's trumpism? >> he is fundamentally reordering the party. issues he cares about. took a party that stood for one thing, did some of that and now adding a new dimension he karca about, trade, russia, immigration. the part that could last. republicans say it will burn off. i don't think it will. hi think he really directed the party in a fundamentally different direction. >> we talked about how the gop can't necessarily run on immigration anymore, especially midterms, considering where we're at with immigration and what's happened in the last couple of months? >> you can at the primaries. thin...

Resolution on protecting the press. we'll get to that. curious as to what you know about where the separation policy stands? we know they ended the policy but still a lot of children's lives hanging in the balance. are they going to be able to resolve this completely? >> hundreds of children are still separated from their parents. >> do we have a good number on that? are we in the hundreds? >> there are no good numbers. >> no good numbers. why are there no good numbers. why can't we get the government, why can't we get the fraugs to give us good numbers on how many children they seized from ta...

Present. a lot of this case is a paper case and the witnesses are going to be backing up those documents and there are other witnesses who are very close to him, his former business partner. >> rick gates. >> rick gates, and so, i mean, at some point it's going to have to don on him, this is not a winning strategy that he has. i think it's a very tough case for him to win. >> the reason i wanted to have you on is, you wrote a letter to secretary of homeland security, kirstjen nielsen, about the separation policy the administration put in place. you resigned from the homeland security advisory ...

Separation of migrant families? i'll talk to liz holtzman, who just stepped down over the separation policy. at the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's, we carry flowers that signify why we want to end the disease. and we walk so that one day, there will be a white flower for alzheimer's first survivor. join the fight at alz.org/walk.

Government's separation policy. but at least here, two days to go before the deadline for people like sister norma, the help she's getting is critical. >> thank you very much for your continued reporting on this. we'll be right back after this quick break. you're watching msnbc. the line between work and life hasn't just blurred. it's gone. that's why you need someone behind you. not just a card. an entire support system. whether visiting the airport lounge to catch up on what's really important.