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what do you say? how this is square with the facts? >> he tried to separate himself from the separation policy. listen to what he said. >> the family separation policy actually began under the obama administration, and then we continued it until president trump directly reversed course. >> when president trump said during his presidency, anderson, that he simply inherited the family separation policy from barack obama and eventually ended a, i called that a lie. i will call it light again not that mike pence is saying it. is just not true. here is the reality, there is no blanket policy for family separation under president barack obama. under a bomb of, to separated from their parents at the border in rare and exceptional cases, if a parent was being prosecuted for caring jokes over the border or human trafficking was suspected -- rare and exceptional. what trump and pence did was way different.
himself from the separation policy. let's listen to what he said. >> the family separation policy actually became under the obama administration. and then we continue did until president trump rightly reversed course. >> when president trump said during his plan -- , anderson, but he is simply inherited this family separation policy from barack obama and that eventually entered it. i called that a lie. and now i'm going to call it a lie again now that mike pence is saying it. it is just not true. here is the reality. there was no blanket policy of family separation under president barack obama. rather under obama, children were separated from their parents at the border in rare and exceptional cases, like where the parent would be prosecuted for carrying the drugs across the border. where human trafficking was suspected. were you authorities couldn't confirm the connection between the child needle they were with. so rare and exceptional. what trump and pence did was way different. they created a whole new policy that made separation routine rather than rare. in spring 2018 they're a. g.
jeff sessions announced it as a whole new separation policy. it was called zero tolerance and said that in a major change from the obama days. all of the adults car costing the border legally would be criminally prosecuted and that resulted in those adults going to jail. their children were taken to other facilities and so as a result of this new -- routine separation, actually did not exist under barack obama. in short, anderson, mike pence here is dishonestly descent -- jested. >> he also talked about abortion tonight. what did he say? how does that stand up? so our dine about actually talked about the importance of exceptions for life of the mother, for rape and incest. and he made an assertion -- sudanese questions. take a listen. >> should any thorough abortion ban also include exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother? >> well i, those are exceptions that i have always supported, dana. as you know.
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documents. >> and not to mention a tape in a completely different location. >> laura jarrett as always, thank you. let's switch gears. thousands of migrant children and parents were separated at the border under a trump era rule. now attorneys from the justice department are defending it. five asylum-seeking mothers are suing the federal government for the trauma they say their families suffered because of trump's zero tolerance policy. despite president biden calling the actions criminal, the doj saying they were separated out of perceived humanitarian considerations. joining me now, julia ainsley. what's going on here? >> reporter: it's the justice department trying to remain neutral when it comes to these tort cases. but what that means is that families who were saying that they were damaged by the separation policy under trump are not able to get payments.
Speaking to donors, Mark Green, the House Homeland Security Committee chairman, promised to produce charges of high crimes and misdemeanors against the homeland security secretary.
general mills and other places so it's wrong. cleaning the slaughter houses. but, remember, this is the democrat party that is complicit with the cartels in this. >> brian: they had the d.n.a. kits down at the border. when the separation policy was ill thought out senator sessions idea. and they d.n.a. kits. we're not going to separate. we are going to find out right now. are you related to you? and all they had to do after a while was hold a swab. okay i'm not. they would throw up their hands. that was one way to separate them. the first way didn't work. that was a short period of time. what does this administration do per fentanyled by. blame the previous administration for everything. donald trump's policies separation from families we spent all our time trying to reconsolidate families. listen, that was over the course of one month. that even the first lady was against. it was quickly corrected and done. what is happening right now it shows mayorkas is totally incompetent and incapable. it also shows that he had lying
Speaking to donors, Mark Green, the House Homeland Security Committee chairman, promised to produce charges of high crimes and misdemeanors against the homeland security secretary.