Transcripts For MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 202

MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle October 5, 2024

The vote and take elections. Donald trump lays the groundwork to challenge the election again. What he is saying about the 2024 vote as The 11th Hour gets underway this thursday night. Good evening we are 33 days away from the election. Liz cheney joined harris at a event in Wisconsin Today considered to be the birthplace of the republican party. Here is what we heard. Under our constitution our president has a particular obligation, to ensure and guarantee the peaceful transfer of power. Every president in our history has fulfilled that duty, every president until trump. Harris has dedicated her life to public service. I know that she loves our country and i know she will be a president for all americans. I am honored to join her in this urgent cause. That is not the last time we will see cheney on the trail. Next week she and three former Trump Aids will be in pennsylvania to make the case that trump is a threat to democracy. Meanwhile trump is attacking the biden Administrations Response to hurricane helene. People are dying in north carolina, they are getting no help from our federal government because they have no money because their money has been spent on people that should not be in our country. No, that is a lie. Trumps claim that the permit is not helping Hurricane Survivors is categorically false. 30 days until the election and he is spending his time in michigan lying about the current President And Hurricane victims. Even his Running Mate knows it, here is what vance had to say at a event with glenn. Fema has provided a lot of resources and we are grateful for that. Biden toward the hurricane damage, yesterday he was in north carolina. He also sent 1000 act did duty soldiers to support the effort and he is calling on americans to come together in the wake of the tragedy. In moments like this it is time to put politics aside. It is not one state versus another, it is the united states. There are note democrats or republicans out here. I want you to know i see you i hear you i grieve with you and i promise you i have your back. Tonight more than 200 are confirmed dead and hundreds more remain missing. With that lets get smarter with our lead off panel tonight. Peter baker, the coanchor of Pbs News Hour and a political reporter. Peter, Liz Cheney coheadlined the event. I want to know who does she draw . Who is on her Guest List to come to a democratic rally . It is remarkable, you never expected this eight years ago, that you would see the cheney family, Liz Cheney the number three in the house of republican leadership, both conservative, endorsing harris for president. The reason why she made clear tonight. There is something greater in her view than ideological differences, she still disagrees about a lot of things, healthcare and all of these Policy Differences but she understands that harris will abide by the constitution and she does not believe trump will do that and there are a number of republicans out there that agree. Republicans that continue to vote for haley even though she lost the primaries. They just cannot stomach the idea of trump for another term. Is it enough to make a difference . We do not know but obviously it is part of Harriss Strategy to reach out to disaffected republicans saying there is a home for you. Cheneys words today, she has been republican longer than trump has been spray tanning. We must hold sacred americas fundamental principles , from the Rule Of Law to free and fair elections to the peaceful transfer of power. If you share that view, no matter your political party, there is a place for you with us and in this campaign. This was all about getting the never trump republicans, independents and Swing Voters. Is her pitch to these voters him a vote against trump or is she offering this people something, giving them a reason to vote for her . It is more about voting against trump, she went on to say she believes we need a strong twoparty system. They would love one day to vote for not Paul Ryan but some version of that party. What herr is is doing is trying to cut down the voters they feel is too liberal. They have clips from 2019 of harris endorsing ideas that she no longer supports. I noticed republicans releasing clips highlighting those ideas. That is part of the strategy, harris was seen as liberal and 2019, she has been seen less liberal, less liberal than trump as seen as conservative and narrowing the Grip Trump has on the economy and immigration. Will this person be with me if i am the liberal trump puts in his Campaign Ads . What is Liz Cheney saying up there . There is to Core Messages the Harris Campaign wants Liz Cheney to put out there and reach the targeted voters. One is the message of Preserving Democracy. Republican who served on the January 6 committee who led those hearings and laid out some of the most damning evidence about the actions of President Trump in the lead up to generate six and the day itself now confirmed in the unsealed filing. That is a Core Message and in the latest poll out today, Preserving Democracy and the economy are two of the top issues for most american voters. The other group is the 20 of registered voters that tell us today they are still soluble in some way. If you break that down 15 of the 20 say we think we know who we are voting for but we could still change our minds. 5 say they still have no idea. There is opportunity that the Harris Campaign sees in those voters. I want to talk about the new york times, some legal experts are worried about trump following through on his threats to prosecute opponents if he takes in Second Term. Can he do that . Of course he can. Under the theory of executive power, Something Cheney once advocated although i do not think he imagined going after enemies. Therefore a president can order the Justice Department to do things we traditionally have not seen them do. In the postwatergate era, we have standards that separated the president from the Department Of Justice when it comes to individual cases. Politics should not govern who we charge as criminals. Trump has made it clear that is not the way hes theses. He tried to do it in his first term, he publicly rated the Attorney General. They refused to do so, you can make some arguments that they complied with his wishes. In the Second Term he has made clear he is willing to go after a broad scope of people he sees as enemies. People he say has cheated, he is accusing people who did their jobs, Election Workers for instance, perhaps State Officials or other people that refused to go along with his demands, they may face possible prosecution. He specifically said the Secretary Of State in georgia could face charges if he doesnt change the vote. He said Liz Cheney should face a military tribunal. Why . He did not explain other than the fact she broke with him. So he has made it clear that the idea of a Second Term for him is to use the power of government to go after adversaries not for criminal actions but being disloyal to him. Jd vance talked about Hurricane Recovery and their answers were different. Is that because Jd Vance is trying to distance himself from trump so he is more inclined to tell the truth . I apologize dave. Go ahead. I have watched this story develop, the first Argument Trump made about the storm, that the region was abandoned by the administration and that did not meet up with what glenn was saying. The ongoing story is that money has been diverted to deal with immigrants. They are still challenging the reality of what is happening. Lets talk about Milani A Trump. She is weighing in on reproductive rights. Without a doubt there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right all Women Access from birth. Individual freedom. What does my body my choice mean . My body my choice, trump said she should write what she believed, it is amazing she can do what she wants with her body but other women cannot . Is the Game Plan to confuse people so they cannot clearly say that trump supports a federal Abortion Ban . Maybe not because lonnie it does not . This is stunning for a number of reasons, we rarely hear her weighing in on political issues. Think about the number of times we have seen her on the campaign trail. Not at all. It also clearly breaks with the rest of the party. To your point, theres a lot of questions around trumps willingness to allow mightiness on where he stands on certain issues. We see one thing one day and then a few days later he backtracks, so it is unclear where he stands around issues when it comes to reproductive rights. Jd vance had answered that question and that trump later backtracked. Whether or not it is a strategy that remains to be seen but it is stunning at this point in the election to see Milani A Trump weighing in on the issue that is polarizing for democrats. When cnn asked for a interview her publisher said sure for 250 grant, we will not be doing that. Thank you for starting us off tonight. The Port Strike we have been talking about has fortunately finished after three days of work stoppage. 50,000 dockworkers will return to work immediately. The international Longshoremens Alliance agreed texisting contract until January 15 to finalize a new one. It is good news for consumers. When we return there is a lot of voters out there saying they are undecided. I need to meet them. What will it take to get them off the fence . Stacy abrams will tell us. Later the former president is once again pushing false claims about the election. What he is saying now and how it is even more dangerous. The 11th Hour is just getting underway this thursday night. S above all else, i note the most conservative of conservative values is fidelity to our constitution. I tell you i never voted for a democrat but this year i am proudly casting my vote for Vice President harris. Former republican congresswoman Liz Cheney is making her full throated appeal to republicans who are not sold on trump to vote harris instead. The next guest says it may not be that simple. I am joined by Stacy Abrams, host of the crooked Media Podcast and author of the Childrens Book Stacy speaks up. It is a honor to speak to you. So much focus has been on convincing Swing Voters to vote for harris. Is that the most effective strategy . Yuma once told me something about Swing Voters that stuck with me, they are harder to get than people think. We are talking about a different category this time, Swing Voters are swapping from one system to another, my parents were pastors and their job was conversion and it is hard to do. What we are seeing happen with Liz Cheney and harris is about persuasion. Cheney framed it perfectly, you are trying to convince people that the priority of your values is aligned with the vote they want you to take. Even if you are defending democracy from autocracy, your values demand you vote for harris, you are not going to believe in the fundamental policies and that democratic wing of the party, you are trying to convince them that preserving the nation we love is the most important activity. When you widen the aperture, what you recognize for Swing Voters, it is often not a question of one candidate or the other, it is who will reflect their values most and when i push back is when we spend our time trying to convince someone who does not share our values to change their mind but instead you can focus on someone that shares values but focus on efficacy of voting. That is where we can pick up new voters and turn out more people. Cheney is part of a republican dynasty. Do you think there are a lot of voters in Battleground States that think like her . Absolutely, we have one in georgia, jeff duncan, the Lieutenant Governor for the state. I worked against him more often than not, he is standing for harris because he values protecting this country from a authoritarian and the evisceration of our Value System as a nation. So there is a absolute benefit to talking to people who may not agree on every policy but what you want them to do is prioritize the values the most fundamental. In this election, because of these two candidates, there could not be a starker choice. It is one of the few times we can use of her time that is valuable in this way, for those whom this is Neck And Neck with the concerns they have. Her ability to diminish their worry and decrease the likelihood they will support her, it is worth it. We do have folks that heard a lot of misinformation and aggressive and vile this information and they want to be with harris but they have been fed a lot of information and they need someone to break it up. Her willingness to defend and protect the people of this country and talk about the importance of protecting the border but also recognizing the humanity of those that live in this country, that kind of conversation is exactly what in 2021, the Jim Crow to point out law known as Sb 202 had the exact effect we were afraid of, it was disproportionately harmful to black voters in georgia by diminishing their access to the vote. In this case what we are telling you is that this renegade State Election Board is taking matters into its own hand and selling chaos by putting in place rules that will delay the counting of eyelets. They are saying in a precinct 3 people have to hand count every Ballot Cast which sounds innocuous enough until you realize Fulton County has more than 500 Thousand voters and only three people per precinct will be allowed to handle the ballots. In a state of 11 Million people with 5 Million voters will delay the certification of the votes and jeopardize georges Electoral College votes being included and that is a mismanagement of elections and a intentional scheme to create chaos in georgia and undermine the validity of the election. Before we go i want to talk to you about reproductive rights. On monday a judge ruled that georgia can no longer enforce its Abortion Ban. The state Attorney General has already appealed that, how significant is this . It is significant because the judge acknowledges the humanity of the Women Of Georgia and our citizenship and says this is not right. We live in a state where extreme abortion laws have taken the lives of women and the fact that the ag of our state is going to court to put women in Mortal Jeopardy should be offensive to every american. Unfortunately we have a governor and Lieutenant Governor and a Attorney General that have been emboldened and empowered by trump to steal the rights of women, to deny us not only bodily autonomy but healthcare. They would argue that the law does not say this but clearly what it says is sufficiently either vile or incomprehensible that doctors could not save the lives of women and those women have died and that blood and that decision is one thing we can change heading into the selection. We can save the lives of Women In Georgia and across the country by electing harris as the next president. It is so good to have you here. The goal of our show every night is to help our audience get better and smarter. There is a photo of you on our wall, Stacy Abrams a Dream Guest to help us do that and you certainly did tonight. When we come back the Trump Team is gearing up for another fight against the 2024 results. Not his a unit. This time what is the plan . Recycle and reuse a familiar phrase. 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He has worked on a number of gop campaigns, he is now the host of The Home Front podcast. Connor is getting the first question. We will talk about Election Interference in a second but i want to talk about your Home State of pennsylvania. Do you think the election comes down to pa and if so how is the Harris Campaign doing . It probably does, she is doing well. The job was a lot harder for her than it was for biden but she airs the baggage of a incumbent which is a tough spot. She has picked up all of the low Hanging Fruit and executed everyday. There is a lot of room between philadelphia and pittsburgh. Governor wallace has visited those places so they made the effort but they are on the five yard line. There is the last group of voters that are hard to convince. I think those people are still curious about harris. That is her advantage. I am someone who wishes there was more unscripted settings were Town Halls or i wish trump would agree to another debate. You actually canvassed for harris in pa, what was that experience like . It was enlightening. I would venture to say that Mag A and pennsylvania is concentrated, we got chased by supporters on two days, one gentleman threatened to get his shotgun if we ever came back

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