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>> and president trump's executive order doesn't guarantee the families won't be separated. 20 days after the detention of the whole family, the children have to be released. what happens after that? >> the family will have to be released. that's going to happen. they won't keep the children and send them out. the extension of the executive order of the agreement is that the entire family be released. that's kind of what's happening today. how are they going to house families for 20 days and second, how are they going to monitor? the good news is there is a system in place. the obama and bush ...

>>chris: what a difference a few days in a national uproar makes. as president trump ended up signing an executive order after saying he couldn't. it's time now for our sunday group, rich lowry of national review. columnist for the hill, juan williams. donna edwards and former federal prosecutor, andrew mccarthy. let me start with you rich. the president says he does not like to reverse course but he did it repeatedly. he said he couldn't find an executive order. he did. then he went up to capitol hill saying he was 1000 percent behind republicans trying to pass a reform bill then told him to ...

To maintain a certain capability for families. we can't have catch and release. in my three years, we deported, repatriated, returned over a million people. >> kimberly: the president doubling down on his attacks against democrats on immigration. >> we want to have a great immigration. what we have is very simple. we want strong borders and no crime. the democrats want open borders, and they don't care about crime. >> kimberly: data, talking about communications. listening to that. >> dana: the president when he said strong borders, no crime. they want open borders and more crime. he is defini...

Separation policy. it wouldn't have been necessary without those separations. it is an overflow area. of course, what everyone is concerned about is getting these kids reunited with their families. we actually had a chance to speak to the hhs spokesperson right out here after the visit. here's what he said about that. >> every child in our care we have reached out and we have connected them with parents. in the rare case that we have not connected with that parent, we are aggressively working to find that parent. i can assure you, parents are involved in the decision making about children in o...

John meacham, with some of those descriptions, vivid descriptions -- i sat -- i rode with senator harris to the detention sen consider. there's rolls and rolls of barbed wire, double prison doors. it feels like -- it really feels like a prison. i'm curious, i mean, we have a couple dark moments in our nation's history that we all kind of remember. is this one that you think is going to get added to that list? >> it's certainly the most vivid manifestation of what so many people have feared about the trump administration. and i think you go from the travel ban early on to this separation policy...