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It is notionm aspiration. i think we would have support to prevent those cuts enacted because of the impact on the national security. >> hinting there may be a way around the defense cuts, chairman carl levin didn't want to give the supercommittee a way out. >> i don't want to take the pressure off to reach a deal and talk about avoiding or elimb naynating effect of sequest tration. >> senator lieberman told fox if it fails it would never go in effect. >> bret: we have more on this with the panel. thanks. could subway system decide fate of san francisco's mayoral election? first, democrats are...

At it differently. we will spend ink and videotape trying to figure out where they are going and every day is a new story but it comes down to taxes. republicans are never ever going to vote for a tax increase. the only way you get a deal done is if they find another way to score revenue. democrats sign on. otherwise it's sequestration. because republicans will not commit political suicide given political and economic they're in. >> sec question tration is automatic -- sequest tration is the automatic cut. everybody seems to want to avoid that. >> they do. >> there might be a step forward for ...

Program. that might be a way to sneak revenue in. i feel like we're back where we started from this summer and that is a bill coming out that will not meet target. sequest tration on whatever is left over. >> it seems to me tha the republican position is mischaracterized in some reporting. not that republicans are against any change in revenue by they want to use it for tax reform, not to just increase taxes to meet $1.2 trillion target. >> i think the possibility that something big, including major tax reform or nothing at all. they talk about sequest tration as if it's opening the seventh se...

Democrat and republicans look at it differently. we will spend ink and videotape trying to figure out where they are going and every day is a new story but it comes down to taxes. republicans are never ever going to vote for a tax increase. the only way you get a deal done is if they find another way to score revenue. democrats sign on. otherwise it's sequestration. because republicans will not commit political suicide given political and economic they're in. >> sec question tration is automatic -- sequest tration is the automatic cut. everybody seems to want to avoid that. >> they do. >> ther...

Program. that might be a way to sneak revenue in. i feel like we're back where we started from this summer and that is a bill coming out that will not meet target. sequest tration on whatever is left over. >> it seems to me tha the republican position is mischaracterized in some reporting. not that republicans are against any change in revenue by they want to use it for tax reform, not to just increase taxes to meet $1.2 trillion target. >> i think the possibility that something big, including major tax reform or nothing at all. they talk about sequest tration as if it's opening the seventh se...