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The arbitrary across the board spending cuts included in the sequester, that we need more targeted spending cuts and more precision like in the spending cuts we make. that to me should be a basis for agreement. i talk to republicans and democrats who both agree. it might be harder to agree on spending levels and what we cut and spend more money on but i don't think anybody is happy with the across the board spending cuts in the sequester that we agreed to, by the way, the republican number, even though we oppose it to get past the government being closed. >> marsha, sounds reasonable to me. >>...

>> well, you know, we'll see how long. mi i mean, i think once you push up against the debt limit it becomes more problematic. >> october 17th. next week. >> i think that's when you're going to see more, you know, more pressure on him to do something. but i think that one of the issues, you go back to 2011, is that what happened there was that we ended up with the sequester, which right now is what democrats are arguing is a concession that they're giving to republicans and saying just pass the c.r. at the sequester levels. so i think one of the problems is that democrats are making two argume...

Then the idea he's not willing to negotiate, he says i'm perfectly willing to negotiate after the threat -- the shutdown threat and debt ceiling issue is there. trying to sort of shift the rhetoric so it isn't all about, which republicans are trying to frame it, hey, the president won't negotiate, the president trying to push back on that talking point. i'm more than willing to negotiate just not under these preconditions that republicans want. i think it's notable you see a different tone and a little bit different emphasis on this second week. it tells me that perhaps some of the republican ...

More than six weeks, accept the sequester levels going forward, which is what the the republicans want and put something on the table in terms of entitlement reform, which the president without on the table in his own budget. to adjust sequester level and entitlement reforms to come up with budget savings meaningful, long-term budget savings that could get the republicans off their demand regarding obama care. >> i think you're right there, andrea. i think chuck is onto something in that the president -- john boehner just kept saying over the weekend, i want to have a conversation. whoever hea...

Development. >> exactly. >> we're looking at the fact that they already negotiated at sequester levels, at least in this cr that's not getting picked up. >> exactly. >> so none of that stuff is going to change but it is affecting and choking everything off. >> and you see it in the schools. like that -- i mean the tone and tenor, i have to give it to nbc, the tone and tenor of this ed nation is really different. it's really looking at what it takes and not vilifying teachers. and teachers' voices are being heard. but teachers are saying this is what i meade to implement the common core. not te...